#6 - Shea Weber and Erik Johnson feel the Lovejoy

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Re: Fic Discussion! - Seafoam

[(Anonymous)]

DA

The best way to get rid of a troll is to ignore them and deprive them of an audience.

GamerGate has proven that theory to be wrong. All that does is make the person being isolated feel like shit.

If you see someone being a troll, don't make everything about them or excuse what they're doing. Focus on the victim and make sure that you are building them up rather than telling them that theres worse trolling out there or that they should have a thicker skin or whatever, jfc.

Re: Fic Discussion! - Seafoam

[(Anonymous)]

Focusing on the person being trolled by telling them good things about themselves is great. Expending all your energy on calling the troll an asshole sociopath or whatever is not. People are asking for meme to do the latter.

Re: Fic Discussion! - Seafoam

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

People are asking for people to do the former by not saying that things are worse elsewhere. The people who left tumblr asks probably do not come here. We can't control what they do on tumblr beyond blocking their logged in namesthem and turning off anon asks.

The person who linked that fic with the mean comment attached and those who followed up with "wow whats wrong with them comments" didn't magically disappear.

There are worse things elsewhere but those people are our "worse things". Someone accused someone of enjoying an actualfax crime based on them not clutching their pearls over that fic.

As one of the "stop with the but it's worse elsewhere anons" anons, I'm saying don't say that it's worse elsewhere because the people who said shitty beyond the pale shit here are still here and they shouldn't feel better because they didn't tell the author to go kill themselves. They did say fucked up shit here. It was terrible compared to even the snippiest stuff a person may say here. I would have much rather had people say "wow that was shitty as hell and I'm so sad to lose those authors works."

Re: Fic Discussion! - Seafoam

[(Anonymous)]

GamerGate is the opposite of proving that theory wrong. If anything they were given huge audiences and allowed to post with impunity.

Re: Fic Discussion! - Seafoam

[(Anonymous)]

People were doxxed and swatted and the GamerGate people said that if they really didn't want those things to happen to them then they should have just ignored all the rape threats and anti-trans comments they were spammed with instead of speaking up because then all those hundreds of trolls would have just stopped. They said that telling people that UserX was sayings super fucked up shit about them and that everyone should block them just gave UserX more power, as if that person wasn't googling their address and trying to get them murdered by police.

"Ignore the trolls" was the main wait that GG used to undermine the serious shit that people were doing. So yeah, no, GG did not prove that theory wrong.

http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/issue-sections/staff-editorials/10781/gamergate-trolls-shame/
http://techcrunch.com/2014/10/20/gamergate-is-the-future-of-troll-politics/

Just look at how they reacted to the idea that ignoring them worked

http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2m3fmr/anti_gg_with_gamergate_its_not_enough_to_ignore/

Re: Fic Discussion! - Seafoam

[(Anonymous)]

They still were allowed to run around with impunity, posting things. That's not at all a failure to feed them, even if that was an excuse people used.

Re: Fic Discussion! - Seafoam

[(Anonymous)]

da

I realize this has already been said several times today but conversation on meme =/= talking to an author personally. There's tons of support in namespace; namespace is a good place for that. Anon memes are a terrible place for that, because the person isn't even here! Or if they were here, we wouldn't know it!

If an author came here, anon, and vented about someone being mean to them in fandom, I think we'd all sympathize. I've seen tons of conversations like that, although that kind of thing tends to come up more in places where trolls aren't generally a banned topic. Even here, when people talk about maybe writing something but being afraid of getting pushback, we're very encouraging.

But when talking about something outside meme, it's not our job to "focus on the victim."

Also, you can't use GamerGate or any historical event to prove a theory, because you have no control group. You could just as easily argue that GamerGate would have happened sooner if someone had chosen to engage with them.