#23 — Brown Goes Down

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Re: Things You Wouldn't Admit Unanon

[(Anonymous)]

SA

I meant to add that even when Crosby/Malkin/Staal were coming up, there was a toxic collection of vets that didn't take them seriously. They were all young for their Cup run but that division still existed. For example, Guerin was never the biggest Crosby fan and tbh I think that still holds true, just from how he talks about him, but they were linemates and figured that out for the Cup.

I really don't think it exists now, or if it does you don't hear about it as much. Matt Cullen, man. What a hero.

Re: Things You Wouldn't Admit Unanon

[(Anonymous)]

It's funny, because everyone always talks about how important Guerin's steadying veteran presence was for the team in general and Crosby in particular. I literally read something yesterday that said that Sid needed a Guerin-like person to "hold him accountable" (and it then went on to say that Hornqvist is now fulfilling this role). I actually didn't know that there was a division there.

Re: Matt Cullen, I have to wonder if it makes a difference if your veteran presence can still play hockey. Your description had me thinking of Adams and Scuderi, and you have to wonder if they'd have been a little less negative about things off-ice if they could keep up on-ice.

Re: Things You Wouldn't Admit Unanon

[(Anonymous)]

na

I hadn't heard anything about a rift between Guerin and Crosby either, besides the fact that they apparently used to squabble all the time, which I think they've both said was par for the course with them and something they enjoyed (and which tbh seems par for the course with Crosby and many of his linemates). I had always heard that the veterans who hated Crosby were guys like Recchi and Leclair.

Re: Things You Wouldn't Admit Unanon

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I think Guerin is really well-liked among the Penguins and hockey community in general. I also think he thought Crosby was a whiny little bitch that needed to be brought to heel, the way Recchi, Roberts etc. all did. Sid is still friends with all of those guys so clearly that attitude isn't a deal breaker for him, but it's a persistent notion that's lived in the Pens room until pretty damn recently.

And like I said, whatever division existed wasn't enough to derail that Cup team.

I agree about Cullen. The older vets were worried about young guys taking their spots; Cullen has an eye towards retirement and seems to really want to teach these kids as much as possible, in a way that's really encouraging and productive.

Re: Things You Wouldn't Admit Unanon

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a Preds nonnie who was not sorry to see Cullen go, but it had zero to do with his presence in the locker room. He did a lot of good work with Smith and later, Jarnkrok.