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Re: Game Day Thread May 3, 2016

From: (Anonymous)
Yeah, typically when referring to US States by compass points you're talking as much about history as geography. And even if you are talking geography, referring to "San Jose" as southern feels odd. It's not that far south of DC.

Re: Game Day Thread May 3, 2016

From: (Anonymous)
sa

I mean south compared to DC, I don't mean that if you drive south from DC you will soon hit SJ.

Re: Game Day Thread May 3, 2016

From: (Anonymous)
Southern region geographically will still be everything under the 36th parallel? I have never seen anyone define it as bottom half. There's too much history to ignore.

Regions in play: South, Southwest, West.

Re: Game Day Thread May 3, 2016

From: (Anonymous)
I would agree with this, with the caveat that I'm also from the US and that's the limit of my perspective. The original comment that led to all this confusion had the word southern with a little S, and I kind of assumed that anon was Canadian and using pure geography as their reference point.

Re: Game Day Thread May 3, 2016

From: (Anonymous)
That's fine, but it's not "South," lol.

Re: Game Day Thread May 3, 2016

From: (Anonymous)
If you drive straight south from DC you'll mostly hit water.

Re: Game Day Thread May 3, 2016

From: (Anonymous)
Southern is pretty much states that seceded (plus or minus Oklahoma depending on who you're asking.) In Florida the further north you go, the more Southern you get. Miami may not be Southern, but the panhandle sure is.

Re: Game Day Thread May 3, 2016

From: (Anonymous)
LMAO, this is the funniest thing I've seen all week. California not considered "Southern."

Re: What's Up With Your Team? - Playoffs Round 2

From: (Anonymous)
I think the Wild may have been the most affected, but also maybe the team that spread it to the most other teams, which is why they might have gotten a lot of initial attention (and then from there traced back to the Ducks and Blues). Eventually it came out that some Blues players had tested positive/had mumps-like symptoms in mid-October, but the team never confirmed it.

It's not crazy to for someone to speculate the Ducks could have been the root of it, like, I doubt anyone is super invested to spinning a ~narrative that is purposefully overlooking the true culprits of mumps!! Orange County is notorious for the amount of vaccine refusals, which was in the news at around the same time because there was a measles outbreak at Disneyland just shortly after the NHL mumps outbreak.

This article has a pretty good timeline of how the mumps probably spread: http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/33596/tracking-down-where-the-nhl-mumps-outbreak-started

Re: Game Day Thread May 3, 2016

From: (Anonymous)
It's southern, just not Southern.

Re: Game Day Thread May 3, 2016

From: (Anonymous)
It's not? California is like, the epitome of a Western state. It is not a Southern state.

Re: Game Day Thread May 3, 2016

From: (Anonymous)
If you go to the US and say "southern state," California is pretty much the opposite of what comes to mind.

Re: Game Day Thread May 3, 2016

From: (Anonymous)
If you want to split the US into regions and talk about "the South" that's a totally different definition, though. California (and Missouri) are very much in the southern half of the US, and it's not inaccurate to say so.

Re: Game Day Thread May 3, 2016

From: (Anonymous)
DA

Washington state anon here, and referring to California as southern doesn't seem odd to me.

Re: Game Day Thread May 3, 2016

From: (Anonymous)
Right? Especially from a hockey standpoint. But even not from a hockey standpoint.

Re: Game Day Thread May 3, 2016

From: (Anonymous)
Ok, but if you're speaking geographically, San Jose is closer to the northernmost point of the US mainland than the southernmost point. So by that definition it's still not "southern."

Re: Game Day Thread May 3, 2016

From: (Anonymous)
ayrt

Ha, well maybe because we're directly south of you, I guess! I could see referring to SoCal as "southern" if it were clearly geographical and not cultural/historical, but hearing anywhere in NorCal being referred to as "southern" doesn't compute for me.

Re: What's Up With Your Team? - Playoffs Round 2

From: (Anonymous)
That's the best timeline I've seen. I like that they included the refs. Thanks for linking!

Re: Game Day Thread May 3, 2016

From: (Anonymous)
It's inaccurate in that "southern" has a pretty defined meaning in the US, and it's basically "the states that seceded from the Union." If OP meant non-traditional market teams, that's fine, but grouping California, Missouri, Texas, Tennessee and Florida together is meaningless otherwise.

Re: Game Day Thread May 3, 2016

From: (Anonymous)
I mean, speaking as someone who lives 90 minutes south of Columbus, this is definitely not a traditional hockey market and there's a reason why a certain Ohio city is called "the most Northern of Southern cities." Central and SW Ohio has a loooot in common with the South, culturally, as much as it likes to pretend it doesn't. CBJ can lean on the state's Civil War history all it wants but there's an overwhelming attitude in the southern half of the state that identifies far more with the South and Appalachia, and that's the market CBJ falls into.

Re: Game Day Thread May 3, 2016

From: (Anonymous)
It's southern from a hockey standpoint because the Canadian media is full of blowhards who clutch their pearls at the thought that a team that isn't either on the north side of the 49th parallel or in the far northeastern sector of the United States could do well, let alone survive, and any region that isn't a part of those areas is automatically southern (see: how Canadian media refers to fucking CBJ as a southern team all the time).

From an American geopolitical standpoint, however, it's not. I don't know why that's so hard to grasp. The states that are now considered southern states were established before American settlers reached California, which was the first area on the Pacific coast to have an influx of settlers, which is why California is basically the Western state in American minds. It's not that hard to understand.

Re: Game Day Thread May 3, 2016

From: (Anonymous)
I'm an American, and we're not talking geopolitics here. California is on the west coast, but it's also in the southwest and a southern state. There's probably a million examples of people referring to it that way all the time in casual speech or even the news.

Re: Fandom Venting

From: (Anonymous)
icb we're having geography wank now. of all the trivial things to wank about.

Re: Game Day Thread May 3, 2016

From: (Anonymous)
California and "Southern" don't belong in the same conversation unless we're talking, like, Bakersfield. And even that is more Texas than "Southern" and Texas culture is its own weird entity. Canadian friends, I know Canada is really, really big, but the U.S. is also really really big and has 10 times as many people. Regional identities make shit get real.

Re: Game Day Thread May 3, 2016

From: (Anonymous)
What's hard to understand is why anyone thinks this thread was talking about the latter when OP was clearly referencing the former.