dekedangle_rpfanon | #24 – Not Sure If Serious or Playing Dumba

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Oh please relax. The point ayrt was trying to make was that losing a tooth is so commonplace for hockey players that it can hardly be counted as part of the "pens injury curse". The persecution complex is out of control.

That's... the... joke...

Do... people actually think Pens fans are being serious when they talk about the existence of a Pens injury curse? I mean, Despres and Sutter got traded and then got badly injured, and Pens fans talked about there being a reverse Pens injury curse. It's obviously a joke. (Right??)

Somebody on meme in the recent past literally pulled out stats to prove that the pens are THE MOST INJURED TEAM OF ALL so no, I'm pretty sure it isn't a joke. At least for some people.

Quantifiable evidence of a certain degree/amount of injury =/= believing that a team is injured all the time because they have an injury curse??? Pens fans complain about how injured they are/how that impacts their team all the time, sure, but they're talking about concussions and life-threatening ailments, not missing teeth. None of that translates into being serious about being cursed, lol.

Okay but the Penguins kicked that ~curse's~ butt https://twitter.com/ManGamesLostNHL/status/742333383334891520

Take that, curse!

Shouldn't that be a year by year measure anyway? Clumping all the years together seems deceptive and not like it would tell you much.

It tells you the trend. This is a generally healthy/unhealthy team, based on the usual amount of man games lost. Which smooths out really good and bad years' worth of data.

But how can unrelated injuries be a trend? If a team is injured a lot one year, they are going to have fewer wins that year, sure. But if at team is injured a lot five years ago, how does that say anything about their chances of winning games now?

The really good years and the really bad shouldn't be smoothed out; those should be considered the significant times for identifying a pattern.

da

I think both would be informative, in different ways. Sometimes injuries are totally unrelated from each other, but sometimes they can share related causes (a team systematically overtraining or not following good recovery practices, a player being injury prone). So I think seeing the cumulative data does have value, especially since the chart only records how many games are missed due to injury, but we all know that players also spend plenty of time playing injured, and those injuries affect their performance, too. So I do care to know which teams "tend" to be injured. But I'd also like to see that data with the years separated out and how it corresponds to cup performance by year.

ITT using stats = belief in the supernatural. Which actually explains a lot about how people talk about stats.

Maybe I wasn't clear or I'm just confused but when I hear "injury curse" I don't think literal supernatural powers cursing the team, but more like "really really bad injury luck, maybe bad luck that is worse than any other team". I don't think there are Pens fans that literally believe in a supernatural curse, but plenty that believe in Extra Bad Luck. I guess I just misinterpreted.

I mean, discussions about the supposed Consol curse tend to be followed up by suggestions about exorcism, so. Whether the Pens' injuries are actually due to luck, overtraining (obviously not all of them, but), whatever, statistical evidence (compiled by a neutral party) is a reality, not something that Pens fans are choosing to "believe in." (Whether Pens fans' complaining is disproportionate or excessive is another question.)

I think it's a little of column A and a little of column B. I mean. The existence of Beau Bennett alone is grounds for an injury curse. But we Ike bout it too.

sa

Good lord. Joke. We joke about it too. Not whatever words I actually typed there

"Persecution complex"? Someone made a dumb joke about a missing tooth and is being told they aren't ~new and ~special. But ok.

The INJURY is not new or special, nothing was said about the person who made the joke???

I don't know about other Pens fans but uh. I've had enough of new and special injuries to last me a while. Thanks.

What would even qualify as a new and special injury? Crosby is out with a lower body injury due to be stabbed by a unicorn?

Shhhhh don't tempt the wrath from high atop the thing

anon who made the stupid joke and now heartily regrets it

That was sort of the point of the joke? It's the quintessential hockey player injury that coincidentally happened after he joined the Pens, so it's a little silly (in the sense of funny but also in the sense of absolutely without credibility because it's obviously a total coincidence and not a serious or rare occurrence?) to suggest it's the result of a "curse"? Just like the other examples mentioned of Despres' and Sutter's injuries right after leaving the Pens happening because of a "reverse curse"? I understand if people didn't find my dumb humor funny, but I didn't think it merited a response that was very serious and kind of hostile, and that also seemed to miss the point completely.

ayrt

Ok, someone made a dumb joke about a trivial injury and got told, "but that injury isn't ~new and ~special!!" Without the clear undertone that the person making the joke is being a special snowflake.

sa

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