dekedangle_rpfanon | #24 – Not Sure If Serious or Playing Dumba

#24 – Not Sure If Serious or Playing Dumba

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I think the most obvious factor is quantity. There are very few women-fronted podcasts, and they're terrible. There are many men-fronted podcasts, and most of them are terrible, there's just enough for five or ten of them to be really good. They get into it thinking they can throw an hour of them shooting the shit on the internet with zero equipment, zero editing, and worst of all, zero prep, and then they don't get better.

You really can't record once a month on a Sunday and get it uploaded on Wednesday and expect your content to be relevant or interesting. There have probably been three games since you recorded, ffs! Very few people can get away with posting garbage to talkshoe once a blue moon and maintain an audience (I think the puckcast finally put us out of our misery). Sure, podcasting is a hobby, but it's also work.

DA
Yeah, considering that timeliness is pretty important, not presenting your podcast as 'this is about game recaps,' and having it be more about season trends, stats, narratives, etc. makes sense. As does having a clear schedule.

I've guest hosted on a (non-sports) podcast, and sound quality does make some difference, but I think editing makes more of a difference as does having clear segments and not over-talking.

Also you've got more podcasts fronted by men which have at least some financial support which allows them to invest in gear and dedicate a set amount of time to it as an endeavor.

I mean, the kind of mics needed for better sound run between 100 and 200 bucks, so not to count other people's money, but it's not completely financially untenable for someone who owns, say, a laptop. I would think having a server would be the higher cost.

ayrt

Personally if I was approximately negative dollars from something $200 would be hard to justify, my laptop is justifiable because it need it for work i.e. something which I actually make money off.

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*I was making approximately

Sure, but if it's a sincere hobby (like, frequent podcasting), it makes sense in the way to buying a bunch of team gear makes sense. At the very least, not using built-in mics on a laptop makes a huge difference.

ayrt

Not saying it doesn't benefit, my primary point was that even for hobbyist there can be a gendered divide surrounding the amount of income a hobby is bringing in.

I agree to a point. Most people podcast in aren't making a living at it. You just have to be willing to do some research and extra work to create a quality product.

Nah, you can get decent mics for a lot less that will still give adequate sound. But listening and actively doing a sound check, then making adjustments is more valuable than an expensive mic.

If you have specific recs for mics, that would be great - I've priced some out, but apparently wasn't looking at the right places. /is definitely not starting a sports podcast

I actually use a headset mic for the (nonsports) podcast that I'm on - I have a quiet voice, and it helps reduce background noise for me as well.

I use a Plantronics
Audio 655 USB Multimedia Headset with Noise Canceling Microphone - 30$ on amazon. It’s not going to set the world on fire, but it's cheap, gives good sound, and makes sure I can be heard clearly.

Awesome. That's pretty similar to what I have, though is probably a cheap enough upgrade I'll give it a try. If this podcast goes >6 months, I'll invest in something a bit higher end.

If you're starting a podcast and open to some advice - beyond the obvious sound checks, on of the easiest ways to improve your sound quality is to have people mute when they aren't speaking. It reduces so much background noise.

Also, Audacity is free and there are quite a few tutorials for using it with podcasts, and getting good post production.

Yes, I am, and thanks! I have Audacity, but haven't looked at tutorials (I'm doing content management and friend is doing sound/tech production), so I'll pass that along.

DA I have a Blue Snowball that I really like. I got mine for about $70 CAD, but I believe you can find them for slightly cheaper if you're in the states.

I looked around at a lot of recs before I bought it--if you google "podcast mic recs" or something along those lines, you should be able to find some good lists. Some of the recommendations are going to be a lot pricier, though. A lot of people rec mics like Blue's Yeti, which is a few hundred dollars, so probably not ideal if you've got a smaller budget or just want something decent for a hobby.

I'd also recommend looking into making a homemade pop filter (super cheap and easy to do) and also some of the tutorials on recording tips and tricks. And then just do lots of sound tests, try things out, and make sure you have someone who can do a good job editing things down. Also, a few test episodes probably wouldn't be amiss. It takes awhile to get a feel for things, and you can always ask friends for feedback and get an idea of what does and doesn't work.

Thanks! Yeah, I'd found more expensive recs, so appreciate the other recs. Same with the pop filter - and yeah, good idea about circulating it a bit more closely (though, I mean, it's probably going to be friends and family for the first few eps regardless) before going through putting it on iTunes.

ayrt

I think the amount of hockey podcasts receiving sponsorship money is pretty negligible, and there are only a couple who have access to studios. I haven't done a podcast, just podficcing, and I've never spent more than $40 on a mic, it's all about sound levels and making sure you don't have an echo. And I agree with DA, it's something you spend money on. I'm not expecting anyone to go out and buy studio mics with all the associated equipment, but if it's worth doing my philosophy is that it's worth doing well.

Yeah, absolutely zero of the "good" male podcasts that meme likes are hobby podcasts done with home equipment. Even Steve Dangle, thanks to his connections, had a professional radio co-host and a professional producer on his podcast from the very beginning.

na

Although I will say, having just listened to last week's Puck Soup train wreck and the first minute of this week's with the Wysh echo coming through presumably Lozo's mic: professional credentials, sponsorship, and an editor are still no guarantee of competence.

I can't speak for meme as a whole, but all the hockey podcasts I listen to are hobby podcasts. I don't think any of them even have a patreon, let alone a sponser. The male run ones still seem to manage basics like speaking directly into their microphones, posting regularly, and editing. I mean, these are some pretty bare minimum standards to manage - they don't require corporate support.

The most important thing for podcasters to have is give a shit, and that's free.

Which podcasts are you thinking of? Are they not in English?

This exactly. 95% of everything is crap; the problem is that when it comes to hockey podcasts by woman, "everything" is a small enough number that the 5% of non-crap equates to like two or three podcasts.

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