#24 – Not Sure If Serious or Playing Dumba

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Re: SCF Predictions Thread

[(Anonymous)]

I think that's the conclusion most people have - he's apparently very big into organizing team social events, or at least was in Toronto - and is really funny, but he's reticent and his grammar can be a little bit odd for someone who's obviously a native English speaker. But yeah, not being gregarious = locker room cancer; being gregarious = locker room cancer; being neither = being a locker room cancer. I'm not sure if the Toronto media approves of anyone's personality or lack thereof.

Re: SCF Predictions Thread

[(Anonymous)]

This honestly makes me wonder if the weird grammar is a Wisconsin thing, because I grew up there and occasionally have the same issue when talking to people from elsewhere. Alternately, it's quite possible that I, like Kessel, am an awkward panda who's bad at talking to large groups of people.

Re: SCF Predictions Thread

[(Anonymous)]

original anon

And I grew up in Minnesota and he sounds like every boy I went to high school with - I'm not even sure what he says that's weird grammar.

*am worried now that I have similar weird grammatical habits and I've just never known*

Re: SCF Predictions Thread

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, maybe? IDK. His father is apparently just the same - they're apparently very similar in terms of athletic ability and personality. I think a lot of people have the grammar they grew up hearing and the grammar they use in more formal settings, and he sounds like he has problems switching a bit (or doesn't care to switch) between them.

But I also think this is something I'm more sensitive to, since I code switch a whole whole lot, and so am perhaps projecting my experience onto him.

Re: SCF Predictions Thread

[(Anonymous)]

SA
And I'm not midwestern at all, so that might be it. (My area's accent is so localized that I can tell if someone is from the next county over, so like, again, I think I'm primed to hear these things.)

Re: SCF Predictions Thread

[(Anonymous)]

As someone from the area, I'm genuinely wondering what you mean by "weird grammar". The only grammar thing that I know is native to Wisconsin/Minnesota/the UP is a thing where we frequently say things like "do you want to come with?" or "we should bring that with." instead of "do you want to come with me?" and "we should bring that with us." That's widely believed to be a weird holdover from German/Norwegian/Swedish grammar that stuck around in English, for some reason.

Re: SCF Predictions Thread

[(Anonymous)]

I'm from the lower Midwest and that phrasing is common there, too.

Re: SCF Predictions Thread

[(Anonymous)]

Examples of "odd grammar" please?

Re: SCF Predictions Thread

[(Anonymous)]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4lFOBuEn1c

Minute 0:46 "Me, Boz and JVR been cold right now." I would say 'are cold right now' or 'have been cold,' but that's an odd use of the perpetual 'be' in a way I'm not used to.

Like, I would not think anything of someone saying 'he been cold,' but that use of 'been' with a time delineation is odd to me. 'Been' in my usage (or 'be') is a state of perpetualness, not something temporary. Like, "They been cold" would be a way of dismissively saying that they've been cold for a while now, not that they are currently and temporarily cold.

Minute 1:10 or so 'shows your group ain't get it done.' I would probably say 'group ain't getting it done.'

I think this is an East Coast vs. Midwest approach to verbs, or possibly the fact that my experience with nonstandard English is clearly a very different dialect than standard US English, so maybe what's weird to me is normal to everyone else?

Re: SCF Predictions Thread

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I grew up in central Wisconsin, and I those are weird and off to me too.

Re: SCF Predictions Thread

[(Anonymous)]

His usage or my my usage? (Or both?)

Re: SCF Predictions Thread

[(Anonymous)]

His. I have never used been like that, or ain't at all. And I grew up in a town of 18k in the middle of nowhere, so we had a lot of farmers and local dialect quirks.

Re: SCF Predictions Thread

[(Anonymous)]

Huh, interesting. No idea why he has those constructions, but they always struck me as a bit odd.

Re: SCF Predictions Thread

[(Anonymous)]

His usage or my usage? (Or both?)

Re: SCF Predictions Thread

[(Anonymous)]

Originally from northwestern Wisconsin (closer to the Twin Cities than Madison or Milwaukee) and neither of those sound like home to me either.

Re: SCF Predictions Thread

[(Anonymous)]

Na

"Ain't get it done," sounds like home to me which is odd. I wouldn't even blink at "been cold right now."

/Texas nonny

Re: SCF Predictions Thread

[(Anonymous)]

NA
I'm also from Texas and I find those very odd constructions.