#24 – Not Sure If Serious or Playing Dumba

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Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

For me it's not so much that he already has a Cup but that Pens fans insist on acting like his injury is the saddest thing to happen to any human being/hockey player/team. He's 37, he was going to retire soon anyways, and there's a significant list of players who had to retire younger because of injuries or health issues. It's sad, I'm sad for him, but I'm tired of it being brought up all the time as the greatest tragedy of all time or something uniquely terrible that the Pens org is suffering through when "aging player gets injury and has to retire" is actually pretty fucking common.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

THANK YOU. He's not Paul Kariya, who is a genuinely sad story. It feels like more of the "Pens are cursed, woe!" tragedy storyline I get so tired of.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think we have to grade people's personal tragedies. Both Kariya and Dupuis were done early due to injuries, and it's sad. Dupuis was very popular both with players and fans, so people are emotionally affected by his story. (And I have several Kariya fans on my timeline who get emotional every time a Kariya story comes out, too.) Maybe consider getting a Twitter client that lets you mute his name?

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

da

Dupuis isn't "done early", though. He's well into reasonable retirement age.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

But the cause of his retirement had nothing to do with his age. He's extremely fit, but will be on blood thinners for the rest of his life.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

The thing is, while his individual circumstances may be rare, no one retires voluntarily. At least his quality of life should be fine and he should have enough money. He could be a lower line scrub retiring after only a few seasons making league minimum with post concussion syndrome.

I think what's rubbing everyone the wrong way is the way this is being treated as being a uniquely horrible event, instead of something that is affecting Penguins fans particularly.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

I think what's rubbing everyone the wrong way is the way this is being treated as being a uniquely horrible event, instead of something that is affecting Penguins fans particularly.

How is it being treated as uniquely horrible?

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Dupuis and Kariya both retired at 36 after missing a lot of time with their injuries.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

yeah, the ~tragedy clearly gets exaggerated because he's a fandom fav.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

The fact that Pens fans are not having the same depth of feeling about players not on their team is... normal? It's not a commentary on the relative degrees of tragedy experienced by different people.

"I'm sadder about this player than this other player" =/= "This situation is objectively more sad than this other situation." It's a difference in investment. And if you can't deal with people being more invested in players on their own team than in players on other people's teams, I really don't know what to tell you expect maybe you should stay out of multi-team spaces.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Oh boy. When did I say I "can't deal"? I find it annoying, but there's plenty of things in this world that I find annoying and so far I haven't moved to a solitary cave in the middle of the desert.

I understand that Pens fans find it especially sad because he's on their team, but I can't lie and say I don't also get a sense that they DO think this is sadder than any other situation. They bring it up all the time as a reason why they should win the cup this year. It's a very, very common situation, and while I understand being a little torn up about it happening to a fan fave on your team, I find it hard to think of it as something which makes the Pens especially ~unique or tragic. And that's HEAVILY implied by pens fans, all the time.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

I get the feeling that this is more the result of your perception of Pens fans than about Dupuis and how people actually talk about him. And while "retiring because old and injured" is extremely common, the way in which it happened to Dupuis is not "very, very common" by any means.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

He's 37. Cry me a river.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Is it the same river being cried for Joe Thornton not having a cup despite being 'old'?

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

TIL shitty things happening to you don't matter if you're old.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not even a pens fan, but I still feel bad for Dupuis. 37 isn't old by anyone's but athlete's standards.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

actually blood clots are a some what common malady for athletes, though not always career ending. Stamkos and Vasileveskiy both had them this year (but seem to be ok so far), and in the past few years Kimmo Timmomen, Tomas Vokoun, and Tomas Fleischmann all had to retire because of blood clot related health issues.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

I'm talking about the specific way his injuries (not just the blood clots) and retirement played out over the course of three different seasons. Stankos' and Vasilevsky's clots are pathologically totally different from career-ending clots like Dupuis' and Vokoun's.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

It wouldn't have taken three season if he hadn't been so stupidly reckless with his own life in the first place ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Dupuis' career was going to end soon anyways. It's ridiculous to pretend that it wasn't. I understand that he struggled with trying to play despite the clots and it was a lot for him to go through, but every year there are guys who have to make the tough decision about longterm health vs. continuing to play.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Tomas Vokoun :(
Maybe I have a misleading view because I only got into hockey a few years ago when his career was nearing its end, but I got the impression that a lot of people forget how good he was (or don't remember him at all)

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

It's a venting thread. People are allowed to vent without a disclaimer about how the thing annoying them is human nature and there's nothing wrong with it and they probably don't belong in multiteam spaces if they find themselves annoyed at it overwhelming their TL. If you can't handle that ... you probably know how the rest goes.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

When someone comes to the venting thread and says "I'm annoyed by people doing X," does that not imply those people shouldn't do X? Or have I been reading this thread all this time?

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

NA

Not really? I'm frequently annoyed by shit and want it to go away or out of places where I can see it, while simultaneously recognizing that people can do whatever the fuck they want and not actually wanting to become grand poobah. I mean, to use a non-fandom example, I'm annoyed how many sandwiches include mayo, because I hate mayo. That doesn't mean I don't recognize lots of people love mayo and would be sad if it was gone. It just means that I wish it was easier for me, personally, to get a sandwich sans mayo.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

na

just speaking for myself, not necessarily. Sometimes I just want to commiserate about finding something annoying.