#26 — Vanek! with a Jurco

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Re: Hopes, wishes and dreams for 16/17

[(Anonymous)]

a ayrt rt

+1 million

Ugh, I was so angry about the Subban trade that I forgot all about how angry I was about the Shaw trade. NOTHING ABOUT THIS SEASON IS MAKING ME HAPPY. BURN IT ALL TO THE GROUND.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Fic Recs

[(Anonymous)]

Here!

Re: Hockey Media

[(Anonymous)]

http://www.beerleagueheroes.com/hockey-desperately-needs-better-competition-metric-part-2-2/

Fascinating article on why analytics should change how it measures Quality of Competition faced. (Link is to part 2, as part 1 is basically just an introductory primer to fancystats and written kind of annoyingly.)

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, irrationally.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, yeah, your point's been made.

Re: Fic Discussion

[(Anonymous)]

Ugh, that's one of my biggest story-related peeves of all time. Thanks for the warning.

Re: Fic Discussion - one foot in the golden life

[(Anonymous)]

I really enjoyed this fic. Chance's feelings of inadequacy felt well-done, and the resolution was realistic without being heavy-handed.

The only thing that really annoyed me was Chance basically spilling everything to Hannah and asking her for relationship advice. At that point they'd met all of twice. I wasn't sure why he called her instead of one of his friends who he had known longer. (Though my response may be disproportionate - it always bugs me in fic when characters act too close to each other given their actual level of acquaintance.)

Other than that, which is a really minor point, it was good. It was so nice to see two characters actually communicate their problems instead of dancing around them for the whole fic.

Re: Fic Discussion - one foot in the golden life

[(Anonymous)]

da Now that you mention it, the Hannah thing came out of nowhere for me, too. I kept thinking something would happen with that, like some drama stemming from trusting an almost stranger, but then nothing did, and I guess I just ignored it happened in the first place, lol. Her character felt a bit superfluous overall, even when they had just met I expected some conflict that never came. But overall it didn't detract from the fic from me or anything. I had already forgotten it until you mentioned it tbh.

Re: Fic Discussion - one foot in the golden life

[(Anonymous)]

I liked it overall, but I have to disagree with some of the people above and say that I had zero sympathy for the angsting around "my spouse makes more money than me, my life is so hard." The resolution didn't work for me either. I liked the fact that they put a budget on gift giving, but Leon is right: That's good because if it's their money Chance should have a say in how it's spent. But then they didn't seem to carry that forward into how they began treating the money.

If the money is truly theirs (which it should be since they are married), they need to have some kind of joint financial interests, at least a shared checking account they both put money into or something and joint discussions of how it's spent. But Chance was worse than Leon for treating the money like Leon's, especially when he got to the part about at least it wasn't a house or a car after Leon buys their wedding rings. Does that mean they can never have a house, because Chance would see it as Leon gifting it to him? It drove me nuts.

So, I didn't like that part of the story at all, but I did like the overall relationship, the writing quality and the "tone" of the piece. I also liked the linked primer for giving me enough background to understand the story. I did do some googling of Braid, but all I could find out was that he was once a dev camp invitee of the Caps, and possibly also a training camp invitee who made it into a pre-season game a couple of years ago.

Re: Hockey Media

[(Anonymous)]

I was actually going to say that I found this part written kind of annoyingly too. Just tone-wise it's offputting. I'm not sure why the writer was so allergic to topic sentences but it makes for a meandering article. And on top of that I had a big problem with their argument. The three factors they mention as being used to measure QoC are TOI, raw Corsi, and relative Corsi (I...think). Then their breakdown for why that sucks looks at each metric separately instead of considering them together, when weighing a player's Corsi by their ATOI helps fix a lot of the problems they bring up with both metrics.

They're not necessarily wrong, but their argument is flawed.

Re: Fic Discussion - one foot in the golden life

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't feel the story was truly resolved, mostly because I think it's pretty clear that the financial aspect is just the most obvious and contentious part of Chance's issues. The Hannah part didn't work at all for me.

That said, I liked the story and the tone and would like to see more fics like it.

Re: Fic Discussion - one foot in the golden life

[(Anonymous)]

Chance was a minor leaguer. He gave up pro hockey last year! He last played with the Allen Americans, but his glory days are long past. So. Uh.

Re: Fic Discussion - one foot in the golden life

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, that was in the primer.

Re: What's Up With Your Team- Age of Arbitration

[(Anonymous)]

Jake Hildebrand signed with Rockford. I am so sad.

Re: Fic Discussion - one foot in the golden life

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I didn't feel the story was truly resolved, mostly because I think it's pretty clear that the financial aspect is just the most obvious and contentious part of Chance's issues.

I agree. I was pretty neutral on the Hannah aspect, because I wasn't sure what she was doing in the story. Is she just the female advice-giving OC? Well, lots of fics, have that, I don't know why, but I'm used to it enough to overlook it. But the fic also hinted a couple of times that she represents the straight relationship Chance wishes he could have, which is uh, a more serious problem that probably should have been either dealt with or excised from the fic altogether, but not just skimmed by like it was no big deal.

Re: What's Up With Your Team- Age of Arbitration

[(Anonymous)]

Were other teams in play? If it was his only option, you can't exactly blame him, and it's probably closer to his family than a lot of AHL teams would be.

Re: What's Up With Your Team- Age of Arbitration

[(Anonymous)]

I just wanted a full season of him on the Americans, and also maybe for someone to buy him red pants.

...also he's from Pennsylvania.

Re: What's Up With Your Team- Age of Arbitration

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

I know where he's from. Illinois is probably a lot closer to Pennsylvania than California or Idado or Texas ... lots of places where there are other AHL teams. Unless you mean you know he turned down a team in Penn?

Re: What's Up With Your Team- Age of Arbitration

[(Anonymous)]

The vast majority of teams are in the Northeast. There are, like, five teams farther away than Rockford.

Re: What's Up With Your Team- Age of Arbitration

[(Anonymous)]

More like 10, a good third of the league.

Re: What's Up With Your Team- Age of Arbitration

[(Anonymous)]

Tbf to ayrt, most of those are fairly recent development.

Re: Writing Thread

[(Anonymous)]

what does it mean to be too "self-indulgent" with your writing? i used to think it meant the same thing as "id fic" but now i'm not sure :(

Re: Writing Thread

[(Anonymous)]

That doesn't count as bad news in my eyes, nonny! :D

Good luck. Longfic can be hard, but it's such a rewarding feeling when you finish.

Re: Writing Thread

[(Anonymous)]

To me, it means sacrificing readability for ones own enjoyment; being overly verbose or minimalistic for no apparent reason, skipping over or wallowing in plot points in ways that ultimately hurt the plot, leaving a character unchecked because they're the author's pet, stuff like that. For me, the difference between self-indulgent fic and tropey/iddy fic is more or less mindfulness of the audience.