dekedangle_rpfanon | #26 — Vanek! with a Jurco

#26 — Vanek! with a Jurco

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Yep. They put him in and pulled him after the fourth goal against.

DA
And once again, I feel irrational hatred towards McLellan and company...

Lol, I think it's pretty rational. The injury is one thing but putting him a back in was avoidable.

ayrt
Oh I know, for me it's just irrational because it doesn't matter anymore (I'm not an Oilers fan, so if McLellan is a moron it doesn't affect me). But I hate so many of the decisions he made this tourney anyways. Especially letting Ekblad+Murray continue to play with injuries, that shit is inexcusable.

na

I'd already forgotten about the Ekblad thing, but now I'm even madder. Injuries, plus how he handled the end of the Sweden game, plus playing Murray back-to-back when there was no damn reason for it. Murray shouldn't even have been PLAYING in the game that broke his hand.

Don't forget giving McDavid ridiculous ice time despite the fact that he didn't score a single goal, and shortening the bench at the end of the Russia game to give his top lines even more minutes despite the fact that they were probably gassed from the back to back, AND how the team told him "physically, not verbally" that McDavid should be the captain....

I still don't understand how they told him with their bodies or whatever it was, unless he walked into a weird sex ritual in the locker room.

And, no Americans on the leadership team still bugs me.

I wish somebody had asked him what the hell that meant. It was obvious McDavid was going to be the captain anyways but he should have come up with a less awkward justification for it, lol.

The problem is there were enough older guys with international leadership experience and medals that any justification was going to be hard beyond "he's Connor McDavid and I work for the Oilers". I wonder what a player vote would have looked like.

ayrt
Yeah, the explanation was always going to be bs, but the one he came up with is just awkward, like I said. They had barely skated together before he picked the leadership so it was obvious something like "they really look up to him as a leader" or something wouldn't make sense because he hadn't even had time to lead? So he went with choosing him with their bodies or whatever, which while kinda funny, doesn't convince me it had anything to do with McJesus' actual leadership skills.

I also wonder what a player vote would have been like. They barely knew each other, so I think they might have gone with the oldest/most experienced guys by default. (#justiceforsaad)

Ayrt

Unless he ever explicitly clarifies the quote otherwise, I'm really just gonna have to go with sex voodoo.

Probably Saad, agreed. I think the US guys would have voted for Jones or Trouba for an A? Maybe Canadians would have gone for Schiefele, I have no idea.

DA Couturier has 350 NHL games, so Canadians might have stuck with him for an A, if they were going by experience.

Well according to this, it's because the players were already deferring to his natural (magical?) leadership aura : http://news.nationalpost.com/sports/nhl/connor-mcdavid-was-natural-choice-to-captain-team-north-america-hes-a-hell-of-a-hockey-player

How much of that is Scheifele and RNH toeing the party line, idk. It's not like they're going to go out and say it was an awful choice after all.

(Mini complaint. I have no patience for captain narratives at all and the hockey media's fixation on it is so tiresome. Plenty of sports teams get along fine without putting a fancy letter on someone. All the ink spilled on who should be captain, Pav, Joe, or Pat? like it's going to change the outcome of even one game out of 82. I roll my eyes.)

I wonder if captaincy has more of an effect on the NCAA or juniors level, with the number of rookies coming in every year and the turnover.

That being said I just remembered some college team named their goalie captain, which is great.

my favorite part of that article so far is the assertion that if not for the existence of the U23 McDavid "probably would have been Canada’s centrepiece on offence."

LOL, he probably wouldn't even have made the team. (He's good enough to, but I don't think they would have taken him.)

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"As a member of Team North America’s management staff said, McDavid often needs to know that he’s “the guy” or else he’s not as effective."

This doesn't really strike me as a positive or as a reason to pick, or to justifying picking, someone as captain.

SA justify, not justifying

Well, from a narrative standpoint, loving the thought of McDavid with an actual character flaw.

It also doesn't seem to bear out, considering that he didn't exactly score 11 goals every game.

I don't know much about McDavid and am in no way qualified to decide the best way to handle him, but as a hockey fan, I'd probably be less annoyed by everything McDavid if they waited until he actually set the league on fire to treat him like someone who set the league on fire.

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I hate the precendent he sets by doing it so much

Is it really a precedent, though? That's exactly the same shit orgs have been pulling all over the league since it started, pretty much.

Precedent is the wrong word but with ekblad there were allegedly concussion spotters at the game :/

Oh right, I forgot about that. They actually did pull Marchand out - and then he went back after passing the concussion tests? I'm so confused as to how *I* know more about concussions - namely, that it can take a while for symptoms to present - than these supposed medical professionals do. (I mean, I'm not confused, I know why. But UGH.)

I know about it because it happened to me (symptoms didn't present until about an hour after it happened, ended up in the ER) but my HS soccer coach didn't let me go back in the game - I sat out.

In professional sports I'm just like, ughhh. They should sit out, plain and simple.

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