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#26 — Vanek! with a Jurco
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Re: Trope talk-Animal Transformation
(Anonymous) 2016-09-01 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)But if your choice was change or die, and you weren't changing, why wouldn't you put in a trade request or, you know, quit hockey? And what is the point of team transformations in a universe where they risk injuring or killing the team's assets? I think this is a dark take that would need a fair amount of worldbuilding to be convincing, if being convincing is a goal.
Re: Trope talk-Animal Transformation
(Anonymous) 2016-09-01 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)It would definitely take worldbuilding, but I think that's a feature, not a bug.
I was thinking all significant life transitions caused second form changes (so quitting doesn't help if your problem is letting go of your old team, and may in fact make things worse as the change is bigger and the adjustment harder to adapt to), or there was a Mirror Universe-type callousness towards the possibility of death (so players were likely to think that other players who died from it were weak and deserved it and it was never going to happen to them because they're better, plus teams factor in the possibility of losing players to death in trades), or both.
I don't think most transformation fics really go into detail on why they transform? I never got the feeling that it was something the team makes them do, anyway. Some handwave it as team bonding, but for some it just doesn't make sense. It's not exactly helpful if players randomly turn into animals when stressed - that seems like the sort of thing that could really disrupt a practice schedule.
Re: Trope talk-Animal Transformation
(Anonymous) 2016-09-01 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)Why wouldn't you quit and go work for your old team's FO? I just think it's very hard to justify sticking it out with the new team, which you are not at all attached to (or else you'd transform no problem), when your other option is death. If you might have the same problem just quitting, but you don't know for sure that you will, that still seems better than certain death. I could see being able to pull it off in a certain kind of universe, the way The Lobster pulls off "relationships are based on superficial traits and if you don't pair off you must become an animal," but I do think it risks being dark in the way you kind of blink at later, like, "Emotionally it worked but I have no idea why anyone behaved like they did."
Re: Trope talk-Animal Transformation
(Anonymous) 2016-09-01 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)Who says you're not attached to your new team at all, or know for sure you're having that much trouble adjusting, or that your old team's FO even wants you? If you don't know whether you'll get stuck until you transform, then a certain amount of it is emotional guesswork.
Idk, I think we just have different perspectives on this, and it would take an actual fic to see if we'd agree or not. People and cultures convince themselves of weird shit all the time, so I could 100% buy a culture that had the mindset that people failing to transform correctly were doing it to themselves and deserved whatever they got, just like I bought into Star Trek's murder-happy Mirrorverse, even though it's a shit way to run a society. I can believe a lot as long as the author does a good job constructing it so it's internally logical for the culture. But I do think that no matter what there's a certain amount of suspension of disbelief necessary to make stuff on that level work, and you're right that it could go the emotionally dark but logically nonsensical way quite easily.