dekedangle_rpfanon | #26 — Vanek! with a Jurco

#26 — Vanek! with a Jurco

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I'm not understanding you. It sounds like you're saying Nate is younger and Canadian because people hate Sid/Nate.

I'm saying that "Nate is like Geno except younger and Canadian and that's annoying" sounds like something one would think if they resented Nate and Sid/Nate, more than it sounds like an explanation for why people dislike Sid/Nate. Because I don't at all agree that Nate = Geno except younger and Canadian.

I feel like you missed the essential part where that's in comparison to Claude. What do you think makes Nate different from Claude if it's not the storyline then?

I don't see, if your thesis is that people hate Sid/Nate because it splits up their OTP, why that reason should suddenly go away because of the "enemies to lovers" storyline. There have been several hypotheses in this thread about why, in particular, people dislike Sid/Nate and not other Sid/non-Geno pairings. Obviously people are also upset about their OTP being split up but that clearly doesn't tell the whole story here.

I don't know what thesis you are talking about. Someone raised the point that Sid/Nate is hated in a way that Sid/Claude isn't. Do you have a suggestion for how Nate is different from Claude (or vice versa) or do you just want to tell people they are wrong and offer up no suggestions of your own?

I'm pretty sure people who hate the juggernaut being split up will hate the splitting up even if it's coming from a NNF.

I assumed this was you, but maybe I'm wrong. This whole subthread of a subthread has been people (including me) proposing and discussing reasons they think Sid/Nate is particularly hated, it's not my job to summarize all that for you.

AYRT

No, I didn't make that comment. I don't expect you to summarize the whole discussion — just have a point that's relevant to the comment you were replying to and not a totally different comment.

Ok, then you were the one who replied to me first, while I was replying to that comment. So I'm not sure how else I was supposed to interpret that, other than assuming your reply to me was meant to address the point I was making (which was that the lack of for Sid/Claude suggests that more is going on with the hate of Sid/Nate than just the OTP getting broken up). I don't see why I need to repeat what I've already said in other comments when you're asking a question that already has answers upthread.

AYRT

Nonny, this is an anonmeme. I don't have any way of knowing who you are or what other comments you've made in other places, especially if someone is not using identifiers. If you don't want to answer further, then ... don't.

ayrt

That doesn't change the fact that you were posing a "gotcha!" question as if it had no answer you could think of, while the entire conversation that you intervened in was in fact about answering that very question? And then accused me of not being relevant to your comment, when you're the one who started arguing with me and then got snarky when I defended my position? Also, you're the one who kept pressing for me to answer lmao.

AYRT

I wanted to know the answer of the person I was replying to, not the general thrust of the entire conversation. Which was no answer anyway — so far as I can tell, the only person who has commented on the difference between Nate and Claude, which I assume is you since you said you gave your position elsewhere, has said that they don't have an explanation because they can't peer into people's brains. So I guess you really just did want to tell other people they were wrong.

da

I am the person who made that comment, and that was the last comment I made on the topic and the last one (before this one) I am likely to make. So you can stop arguing over which one of you was me whenever convenient.

lol, chill, it was one remark by someone trying to make a point, no one's dragging your anonymous name/comment through the mud.

ayrt

I just thought I'd put an end to "I ASSUME THAT WAS YOUR COMMENT" because I had that power and I've seen at least a third of Marvel's Spider-Man movies.

two people getting mixed up because people didn't tag themselves as na/da/ayrt is a normal thing, they clearly weren't having this entire argument over which one of them was you, lmao.

ayrt

You fail to understand just how important I am.

[insert obligatory "wait for it" reference]

ayrt

Um, no. The thread is full of people who have offered reasons why they think people don't like Sid/Nate in particular. You singled out the comment (not me) of someone who said they can't think of a particular reason. It's not my fault you can't follow the thrust of the conversation. You're the one making personal digs because I disagreed with what you said, but ok, sure.

AYRT

I singled out the one comment that compared him to Claude, because that is the thing that I was discussing. As opposed to Sid/Nate in general. I've been very clear about that. It's not me that's having trouble following the thrust. And I only singled out that comment, because you claimed you'd made a relevant comment elsewhere already. Since that was the only relevant comment, I assumed it must be yours.

And I'm not making personal attacks because you disagreed with me. One, asking your opinion on Claude in comparison to Nate isn't a personal attack, and two, you've already admitted you were only disagreeing with me because you thought I made a different comment that someone else had made.

DA I think there are S/G fans who hate Sid/Claude. And there are certainly hateboner anons who show up when certain people post Sid/Claude.

I think sometimes it seems like there is more hate for Nate/Sid because they interact more so there are more opportunities for it to be expressed, and the Oflights fic was posted more recently so it's fresher in peoples memories.

I love both Sid/Claude and Sid/Nate but I get some people don't, which is fine, and then there are some people who act very entitled about authors writing different pairings. It's just not worth dwelling on.

da

I feel like those hateboners are for the people writing Sid/Claude, not for the pairing itself. People seem to like or want to like the pairing, but can't stand downjune, constant wrist mentions, twitcrew, etc.

AYRT - I think that there is a range of expression with in the discussion about Sid/Claude some of it is people who like the pairing and have issues with the specific fic or overdone wrists.

Some of it doesn't come across that way, at least to me.

AYRT

Thanks for responding seriously.

I think sometimes it seems like there is more hate for Nate/Sid because they interact more so there are more opportunities for it to be expressed, and the Oflights fic was posted more recently so it's fresher in peoples memories.

That's a good point.

ayrt

I don't know how much more clearly I'm supposed to spell it out for you that you asked for the difference between Sid/Nate and Sid/Claude and my answer was, all the things pointed out about Sid/Nate upthread (which obviously don't apply to Claude at all). I don't see how you could have missed that unless you didn't follow the conversation that happened before you joined in and missed the reason Claude was mentioned in the first place (to question the idea that people always hate the OTP being broken up even by a not-BNF). You can't blame me for mistakenly thinking you were responding to my argument when you replied to my comment, which is what I admitted to, not that I'm out to get you with disagreement because I hated not-your comment. You started the snide remarks and the "or did you only commented to tell me I was wrong??" Short of copying and pasting the link to every comment I've made in this thread, I don't know what else you want me to do here to make this any more clear, so I won't. If you really want an answer to your question, you can reread the thread.

AYRT

you asked for the difference between Sid/Nate and Sid/Claude and my answer was, all the things pointed out about Sid/Nate upthread (which obviously don't apply to Claude at all)

Yes, exactly.

I don't know why you're still confused about this, but I haven't missed anything. I followed the conversation fine. I can agree with the person who thinks Sid/Claude is treated differently and want to discuss why that is without wanting to discuss the reason they brought it up. I don't need you to link every comment you ever made, and I don't blame you for your mistake. It's not me who keeps accusing you of things like "making snide remarks" and so on. It's the other way around. I'm more than satisfied that you wouldn't have made that same comment if you hadn't conflated me and the other anon.

I just want to talk about why Sid/Claude and Sid/Nate are different from each other. If you don't want to discuss that then you don't have to, a point which I've already made once before.

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