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#26 — Vanek! with a Jurco

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Re: Game day thread 22 Sept 2016

(Anonymous) 2016-09-22 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's quite possibly a mix of carelessness and stupidity. He said they went through all the possibilities, but the way he talked about what they knew seemed a little off. Like he was talking mostly about a goal spread they had to stay within, which didn't actually matter in any scenario but a regulation loss, and even then not that much. Maybe he was referring to that particular path and didn't say it perfectly, or otoh maybe they were looking at the wrong things altogether/had the wrong end of the stick.

Not that I'm imputing this motivation to him, but for me personally, the fact that tiebreakers are convoluted and differ across various tournaments and leagues is the number one reason I would hesitate to get aggressive in a situation like this. I wouldn't want to find out after losing sort-of-on-purpose that actually I misinterpreted some unfamiliar rule wrong and surprise, my team goes home when they didn't have to.

Re: Game day thread 22 Sept 2016

(Anonymous) 2016-09-22 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I think you're right, that actually seems most likely. I just hope he, like, realizes what the actual error was at some point? He doesn't sound like he does, but then again, I wouldn't fess up to the press about that either.

I totally agree with you on that last bit from a fan point of view, because I definitely thought I'd worked out all the scenarios, then second guessed myself and had to count out each scenario's goal diff. But for a staff full of coaches it's insupportable. They also basically did what you said, except they played for OT sort-of-on-purpose, misinterpreted the unfamiliar rule wrong and surprise, they're probably going home when they didn't have to. But I do get that it's different, because that sort of aggressiveness feels risky -- and not only is the culture generally risk-averse, I feel like normal league play definitely rewards trying for the loser point over going aggressively for the win. In this case, it was just a total miscalculation of what the risk was, in a situation where what's normally the "risky" play becomes actually probably the safest one.

(Sorry, I'm totally one of the nerds who loves working out every single scenario for playoff clinches/eliminations without "looking at the answers" because I think it's fun.)

Re: Game day thread 22 Sept 2016

(Anonymous) 2016-09-22 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
DA (Do you follow NCAA DI men's hockey? If not, you might have fun starting in mid-January and February figuring out who's going to the NCAA playoffs in positions roughly 12-16, although personally I don't know anyone who can do it without "cheating" and using the Pairwise calculator at some point.)