Going against the grain here it seems, but I see absolutely no difference. It's a complete double standard, but one at a societal level that goes beyond just Pen's fans being defensive Pens fans.
The fact that we're used to hearing "pussy" and "bitch" and even use them ourselves (ie bitch as a verb is really commonly used even by women) is just indicative of society's complete devaluation and hatred of females. We shrug it off because we've (everyone) internalized that female is inherently less than male. No one here consciously thinks that, and I'm sure most guys don't either. But on some level, we've collectively accepted that being female, being called female, doing female things, is degrading. It's why the baseline is set that allows "nice" guys to use misogynistic slurs and still be considered nice.
Homophobia is completely rooted in this kind of misogyny so I don't understand why they're not given the same weight. "Pussy" and "bitch" are used to degrade in the same way "cocksucker" and "fag" are. They're all calling the target less than the pinnacle of "maleness" either by virtue of calling them a women (pussy and bitch) or gay (fag and cocksucker) which is less "manly" (regardless of how masculine he may be) because gay men are attracted to men, like (straight) women are.
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Going against the grain here it seems, but I see absolutely no difference. It's a complete double standard, but one at a societal level that goes beyond just Pen's fans being defensive Pens fans.
The fact that we're used to hearing "pussy" and "bitch" and even use them ourselves (ie bitch as a verb is really commonly used even by women) is just indicative of society's complete devaluation and hatred of females. We shrug it off because we've (everyone) internalized that female is inherently less than male. No one here consciously thinks that, and I'm sure most guys don't either. But on some level, we've collectively accepted that being female, being called female, doing female things, is degrading. It's why the baseline is set that allows "nice" guys to use misogynistic slurs and still be considered nice.
Homophobia is completely rooted in this kind of misogyny so I don't understand why they're not given the same weight. "Pussy" and "bitch" are used to degrade in the same way "cocksucker" and "fag" are. They're all calling the target less than the pinnacle of "maleness" either by virtue of calling them a women (pussy and bitch) or gay (fag and cocksucker) which is less "manly" (regardless of how masculine he may be) because gay men are attracted to men, like (straight) women are.