dekedangle_rpfanon | #29 – Lay, Lie, or Laine?

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I've never followed the Habs, why is Bergevin so disliked?

arguably throwing galchenyuk under the bus for being a DV survivor, the PK trade in general and iirc tryng to lowball him on a bridge deal, probably signing shaw both for SJ reasons and because dude is not worth 6x6 on the business side....

i'm sure there's plenty more, but that's what comes to mind immediately. other nonnies feel free to pile on the Bergevin hate plz?

It isn't just that he traded for Shaw, it's that he got rid of Subban and acquired Shaw in the same weak and then said he picked up Shaw for "character" reasons, which is lolworthy enough in itself but just looks really terrible in the context of the Subban trade.

ayrt

oops, i forgot the timeline because all the bergevin awfulness sort of blends together after a while, but yeah, you are totally correct that that looks HORRIBLE. (yeah, let's trade a fan favorite/genuine top-pair D guy for reasons that look suspiciously like "we hate players with personalities *period* and double down on that hate when they're also not white" and then claim that trading for a white dude who's mostly infamous for forgetting he's miked up and giving him an overly large/WAY too long contract is a "character" thing almost immediately after that.)

also, no idea how exactly shaw ended up their YCP rep, but anybody but maybe bgally (transphobic caitlin jenner twitter shit) or beaulieu (sorry no love for a dude who busts up kid's goalie equipment while drinking with his coach/dad EVER from me) on the habs would probably have been a better choice at least optics-wise. so i can't say for sure bergevin had a hand in that as well, but if so, there's ANOTHER questionable decision on his part. (it wouldn't have been fun convincing weber, but he did a YCP vid with price back in 2012 and at least one nonnie was "hey, would have STILL been better than shaw most likely".)

and + 1 to the "chicago" bit being fucked up.

Partially it's stuff like jerking Subban and Galchenyuk around. (See the stuff about him talking shit about them to lower their value, plus how the owner had to literally step in in PK's case.) Partially it's impatience and frustration that he took so long to get rid of Therrien - there was a real feeling that that was cronyism, putting his friend's better interests ahead of the team's. It's probably a lot of other things too but I bailed on following the Habs when things started getting weird and not-fun.

He's quite obviously stuck in the past in terms of how a team should be built, loves to trash his own players to try and excuse the fact that he doesn't know how to develop prospects, is wasting Carey Price, told the media he wanted to emulate the "Chicago culture" in MTL...

I think also he tends to make "bold moves" to try and shake things up and make a big impact but they almost never work out, so he ends up looking like both a cutthroat, emotionless GM and an incompetent. Poor habs fans.

DA

I forgot all about the "Chicago culture" comment, but yeah, he's had a habit of saying enraging stuff like that. Dumbass, their culture sucks, they won when they did because their GM did a good job building and maintaining the team.

Regarding the "bold moves" thing, I feel like this article talks about how he's changed the Habs for the worse, though it's superficially about the Subban trade: https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/pk-subban-won-the-predators-canadiens-pk-subban-trade

DA

Bergevin-hating anon is late to this party, but whatever, I'm going to vent anyway. You did ask!

A lot of his recent bullshit has been documented, but aside from all that he's just not a good GM. All of the Habs' core players - Pacioretty, Price, Markov, Subban, even Gallagher - are from before his tenure. And since, he's acquired...well. Galchenyuk, sort of (MB became GM about a month before the 2012 draft). Mike McCarron? De la Rose? Hudon? So he's not great at drafting. He's not great at developing players - I don't want to write a novel, but very few of his prospects pan out, and I don't follow the Ice Caps, but I hear that they are not great. (Other people are involved here, tbf, but he's the dude in charge and he refuses to change the people in charge of the system despite it being not great.)

He's talked a big game about building the Habs into a contender, and yet it's patently clear that this team is one good goaltender and...yeah. We have a great goaltender. It's his job to make sure we have more than just a great goaltender, and that isn't the case. (I mean, the Rangers have a great goaltender too, and they also have people who can score goals, something the Habs are sorely lacking. And look how well that turned out!)

Ugh. I hope he gets fired.

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