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#29 – Lay, Lie, or Laine?

This is the twenty-ninth post of Deke Dangle RPF Anon, a community for all your ice hockey anon meme needs.

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Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-04-28 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
So, in this thread: published original fiction featuring hockey players.

Haven't read this one, but it's in my library's "On Order" page and it appears to be out right now, so I'm wondering if anyone's read it.

All You Need by Lorelei James: blurb is "PR agent Annika Lund can spin any disaster into a win. But revamping the reputation of a notorious Swedish hockey player will take every trick in her arsenal, especially when his agent insists that convincing everyone he's no longer a playboy is top priority. And that it requires a sham relationship--with Annika playing the part of the loving girlfriend."

All right, where does this novel take place?...apparently Minneapolis? Does anyone in this city care who hockey players sleep around with, except for groupies and the groupie-adjacent? Ehhh.

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-04-28 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Does self-pub count? Because I hate-read my way through Delivery Girl by Lily Kate, and I'm still not convinced the author had even heard of hockey before she c/p'ed the sport into her manuscript.

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-04-28 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Self-pub definitely counts, nonnie.

Occasionally that same library orders self-pub stuff, either via OverDrive or printed-out POD, and it's hard to find a good evaluation of this stuff before I put stuff on hold.

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-04-28 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
This prompt just made me think to check the reviews of that Jerkbait book, and, man, I don't know how it pulled off 4.7 stars on Amazon. I could do better if I could, uh, write full length original stuff :P

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-04-28 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I hadn't heard of that one (I usually spend my sports fiction time in Romancelandia, rather than in the Republic of YA) and after I now look into it, I wish I hadn't.

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-04-28 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you find the article where she talked about how sad she was that she had to cut out the twincest rape scene? KINKTOMATO and all that, but, wow.

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-04-28 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I was going to mention that one! That has to be one of the worst, most bizarre books I have ever read. It's not like the hockey parts were good either because she had zero understanding of hockey.

There's so many examples but all you really need to know here is that her main character is slated to go in the first round and he plays high school hockey in New Jersey. Oh and his dad is his agent, because he has one of those of course.

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-04-28 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, it would be 200% more believable if she picked anywhere in Minnesota.

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-04-28 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Everything else might be completely inaccurate, but don't most high-end prospects have agents once they get into junior level leagues? Even college track guys have totally-not-a-professional-agent "family advisers."

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-04-29 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

No, I know all of that. But the book flat out calls his dad his agent when I had assumed he was a college bound player. The dad is also an agent for other players in the NHL and his main mission is to make all of his players sign with the Devils since they're the only team that ever game him a PTO.

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-04-29 03:20 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Ahhh, yeah, the extra information throws it out.

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-04-28 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
The Scoring Chances series by Avon Gale
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27384973-breakaway

M/M Hockey romance focusing on players in the ECHL. Relatively enjoyable, but I can't verify the accuracy.

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-05-10 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I tried to get into this but the main character is just so fucking weird and spacey that I couldn't. Do they improve or are all of the characters like that?

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-04-28 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
a) not from Minneapolis but originally from northwestern Wisconsin which is not that different. and no, we probably *don't* care who the fuck anybody on the wild/fictional analogue is sleeping with unless it's rpf-useful or actually illegal.

b) i'd anti-rec just on the basis of another book she wrote ("unravelled". i read for Domme/male sub reasons, and pretty much was "okay, never again" after a) she called her part-Japanese/part white heroine "exotic" and used "flawless ivory and rose-colored skin" and had her noping out on a potential sub hookup because he was bi.)

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-04-29 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for confirming my reaction to the former, from what I can tell who players date is only gossip relevant here if their gf is a TV news person.

The second point sucks even more, it's hard to find F/m written for women, and so much of it is apparently disappointing :(

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-04-29 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

i cannot remember which meme post it was in (it *may* have even been lj version) but we had the "hockey in profic" thing come up once before when i'd just read lynda aicher's "bonds of courage" which is F/m.
http://www.lyndaaicher.com/bonds-of-courage.html

one of the first hard limits she sets as his Domme is "no you are not LITERALLY kneeling for me basically ever" (i think dude either had pre-existing knee stuff or just general precautions). it was actually readable and i do not remember it having anything that made past me go "uh, NO". it *is* part of a series, but i read it without reading the prior books and it made sense and it's not one of those with a surprise cliffhanger ending either. so at least tentative rec.

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-04-29 12:23 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Thanks for the rec; the library has this as an ebook so I'll check it out as soon as I'm done with the 25 other books I currently have out.

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-04-29 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Hopefully it's at least worth being a library checkout for you. (It's been a while since I read it, and *my* backlog is extensive enough that I don't feel up to trying to figure out where the ebook copy I bought is hiding to skim for possible DNWs.)

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-05-10 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT, finally found this book out in the wild. No pun intended. I opened it and the first page I open, I find that it's alternating first person POV, my least favorite form of romance POV, and that the author knows nothing about how the NHL, the minor leagues, or the draft work. So, this is definitely a no.

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-05-10 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
apologies for reccing something that REALLY didn't work for you. (pretty sure at the time i read it *i* didn't know enough about any of the business side details to notice even really enormous fail on the author's, and i've read so many romances that i almost *expect* pro stuff to be alternating first person POV.)

*makes sad face, hopes you at least didn't PAY for the displeasure other than the "support your local library" kind*

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-05-10 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, no, it was the original book I was grousing about that didn't work, not your rec! I haven't read your rec yet because I'm up to my neck in research materials for the fic I'm writing.

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-05-10 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

best of luck with the research/writing, and i'll cross my fingers that the rec's closer to your tastes :).

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-05-10 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Aw, I love alternating first person POV — assuming it's really alternating (such as on a chapter by chapter basis) and not doing that thing where POV just jumps around to whomever's convenient with no rhyme or reason from paragraph to paragaph.

Re: Discussion Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-05-10 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a genre signal for me rather than a craft one; the signal is "this is New Adult." New Adult does not work for me at all. A lot of the self-pubbed NA, especially in sports romance, reads as mental children in adult bodies to me.

Headhopping/badly crafted 3rd person omniscient is far less common in 21st century romance novels than it was in previous decades. I almost never come across it.