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Re: IIHF Men's World Championships: May 9, 2015
From: (Anonymous)The closest and most explicit media speculation I can remember in recent years was a radio interview Rossi gave at the end of 2014. He said something personal was very wrong with Sid, the interviewer said something like "Oh, it must be about a girl" and Rossi answered, "No, not a girlfriend" and people thought he was implying Sid was gay.
Re: IIHF Men's World Championships: May 9, 2015
From: (Anonymous)I honestly don't remember him ever actually saying he's single (saying he lives alone is not the same). And Sid openly dislikes Rossi- beyond Rossi's general lack of credibility, there's absolutely no way he has any clue what's going on in Sid's personal life. (It was also revealed that Sid's 'problem' was his wrist which shockingly Rossi knew nothing about)
Re: IIHF Men's World Championships: May 9, 2015
From: (Anonymous)It comes up so rarely that you could go through a hundred interviews and quotes and find one for every 40, so I'm not going to dig up receipts. We can remember differently. ;)
I agree that Rossi has/had no clue about the wrist, but the wrist was definitely a separate issue. There were a few bloggers +Yohe talking about Sid's "personal issues" and they were adamant that it wasn't his health.
Also Rossi had the story (a story?) and refused to say what it was. If it was the wrist, he would've said that, because everyone in the media was openly diagnosing Sid at the time.
Re: IIHF Men's World Championships: May 9, 2015
From: (Anonymous)I highly doubt Rob Rossi has ever had, or ever will have, a story about Sid. He threw baseless specualtion around and refused to say what because he had nothing to say. That's just classic Rossi. Sid's already so tight lipped about his personal life, do you honestly believe Rossi of all people (who Sid hates!) would be able to gain info about Sid's 'personal problems' or sexuality?? If the guy legitimately had a story, he'd have no qualms about sharing it- see 'go sell some ice cream.'
Re: IIHF Men's World Championships: May 9, 2015
From: (Anonymous)It's not/i> classic Rossi, though. Rossi has thrown around shitty stories about Sid, Tanger, etc. based on nothing. He has had no qualms about making things up so that he has a story to tell. And he wasn't speculating, he said outright that there was something wrong but he couldn't say what it was. Do you not see the difference there? He never says he can't tell a story, if he doesn't know the story he'll make one up.
I'm not saying that Sid had coffee with Rossi and spilled his entire life story (I don't know why everyone in Pens fandom thinks Sid hates Rossi, though. There's less proof of that than proof of his girlfriend). But a story about Sid's personal life doesn't have to come directly from Sid. In fact, many of them don't. There are lots of ways for someone like Rossi to find out about a story like that, up to and including the other franchise player he was still very close to at the time.
Re: IIHF Men's World Championships: May 9, 2015
From: (Anonymous)Let's just agree to disagree- you can put your faith in Rossi and I will continue disbelieve anything he says. It sounds like you've made up your mind to believe it because you want to *shrugs*
Sid could be bi or gay, I don't know, but I'm not going to read into vague comments from the media as clues about his sexuality.
Re: IIHF Men's World Championships: May 9, 2015
From: (Anonymous)I don't think his comments are indicative one way or the other, but acting like every word out of his mouth is a dirty lie is silly. Just because Crosby doesn't have him on speed dial spilling his every life event doesn't mean he doesn't have sources. He spends a very large amount of time in direct contact with the team ffs.
Re: IIHF Men's World Championships: May 9, 2015
From: (Anonymous)Except I don't think that. Generally speaking, I trust what he has to say about Geno for instance, although less so this year. It's just that, looking at his history of both not breaking any news about Sid and spreading false info, it's highly unlikely that all of a sudden he's in the know about this. And I think assuming he is, despite his pattern of behaviour, is wishful thinking. I don't think he counts as a credible source in this but YMMV I guess.
Re: IIHF Men's World Championships: May 9, 2015
From: (Anonymous)Rossi has referred to big problems between Crosby and himself, he joked about lockout making strange allies and that even he and Crosby were talking now (this was on MvsW). That dated from Rossi's coverage of concussion. But there's been more recent stuff too.
Re: IIHF Men's World Championships: May 9, 2015
From: (Anonymous)I was surprised that I saw very few people speculate what those personal issues might be. I saw one or two guesses about a bad break-up, but that was it.
Re: IIHF Men's World Championships: May 9, 2015
From: (Anonymous)I think it's because the whole idea of personal issues didn't come from any particularly trustworthy sources, and as a rule Sid's camp keep all info quiet so speculation would probably get you nowhere anyway.
Re: IIHF Men's World Championships: May 9, 2015
From: (Anonymous)Huh, really? What's the story here? I don't follow Pens media, so I don't really know much about Rossi (I thought he was the one writing the bio of Geno? but he's a bit of a hack, then?) or why there is bad blood between him and Sid. I'm curious, though, if any kind nonny will explain :)
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From: (Anonymous)I wasn't around for the concussion, but reading that all I can think is, again: screw you, Rossi.
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From: (Anonymous)There is a nasty side to high-profile concussions that very few people experience, and I sometimes wish I had not experienced Crosby’s dealings. It involves behind-the-scenes posturing, bickering and finger pointing. It leads to confusion, agitation, stress and stupid things done by smarter-than-that people – and it can become very, very personal.
is referring to the player's meeting about stripping Sid of the captaincy that Rossi/DK/Madden were all going after. DK printed it originally: http://triblive.com//x/pittsburghtrib/sports/columnists/s_776416.html#.Tw-80Qxl--w.twitter Madden said it was true and he and Rossi believed that Sid should have been stripped of the captaincy (DK, FWIW, seemed appalled at the thought).
Re: IIHF Men's World Championships: May 9, 2015
From: (Anonymous)This was followed up by the heartwarming completely spontaneous gesture at a practice where the entire team wore Cs (or Malkin's K, right)? Was it ever named who were the alleged ringleaders to the attempted coup? For some reason I want to say Jordan Staal, but possibly I just mistrust men with invisible eyebrows. Brooks Orpik?
I know Rossi also criticised Crosby and his camp for supposedly not communicating with Ray Shero and Dan Bylsma about how he was going. And Team Crosby went outside the organisation for other medical opinions/treatment (and the Pens eventually turned over their entire medical staff).
I come back to wondering that, if some of this was true, where was Mario during this? Apart from his relationship with Sid, he and Pat Brisson (Crosby's agent) are close friends. Was there a rift there, too? Or, like so much media reporting, especially involving Rossi, is it significantly bullshit flavored?
Re: IIHF Men's World Championships: May 9, 2015
From: (Anonymous)The thing about going outside the organization was that Dr. Carrick was considered a quack. Sid came under fire for that a bit. Carrick had him spinning in a gyroscope and people thought that was hilarious. But then they fired the whole medical staff in response to Sid's missed diagnosis and he found and fixed the right problem, so he couldn't have been too bad.
If Rossi is to be believed, Sid and Mario aren't close anymore. So maybe there was a rift. Publicly, Mario seemed way more concerned with throwing shade on the Islanders and reforming Matt Cooke at the time.
Re: IIHF Men's World Championships: May 9, 2015
From: (Anonymous)I mean, I guess it's the kind of thing you would say in a public statement, but still.
Re: IIHF Men's World Championships: May 9, 2015
From: (Anonymous)Didn't Sid live with the Lemieux's again while building his current house down the street from them?
I'm trying to figure out what this whole saga should be called - All My Penguins? Days of Our Penguins? As the Penguin Skates?
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From: (Anonymous)I've just been re-reading Katie Baker's timeline of his concussion: http://grantland.com/features/sidney-crosby-lost-year/
Rossi comes up a few times (one article is called "Rossi: This reporter knows Crosby's pain" *eyeroll*), and he stirred the pot by printing a piece called "Crosby medical team not on same page" - which was quickly refuted.
Kovacevic also called out the supposed lack of communication between Team Croz and the Pens organization. (http://triblive.com//x/pittsburghtrib/sports/penguins/s_753024.html#ixzz1VyZ)
I don't know much about Lemieux's role in all this, but it seems like publicly he supported Crosby.
Regarding the captaincy thing, I'm not sure what players were rumoured to be driving that. Anyone know?
Maybe I'm naive, but with the meeting/captaincy issue, it seems like it could have been a matter of practicalities rather than some attempted coup, and then things got blown out of proportion by the media.
Some links ...
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/penguins-players-losing-patience-sidney-crosby-concussion-rehab-141750410.html?cmp=fb
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/penguins-respond-ridiculous-sidney-crosby-story-wearing-captain-185927855.html
http://www.rantsports.com/nhl/2012/01/13/pittsburgh-penguins-players-wearing-homemade-cs-in-support-of-captain-sidney-crosby/
Re: IIHF Men's World Championships: May 9, 2015
From: (Anonymous)That's what I've wondered about with the captain talk, but then again, teams do operate without captains for long periods.
Hockey gods bless Katie Baker for that timeline.
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From: (Anonymous)http://www.calgarysun.com/2015/02/06/francis-penguins-star-sidney-crosby-skates-with-eight-year-old-calgarian
The quote from Craig Adams about the horror of going through Toronto airport commercially with Crosby is interesting.