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This is the eleventh post of Deke Dangle RPF Anon, a community for all your ice hockey anon meme needs.
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Re: general RPF fandom discussion
From: (Anonymous)And on the same end, how it reads to me is that the people who are commenting with their disagreements seem to be repeating the same thing that we see on the meme and basically in any argument against reading or writing Kane fic. I don't know. It just seems like this is an impasse and minds will never change so it's useless, which is why I'm not commenting with my disagreement.
Re: general RPF fandom discussion
From: (Anonymous)I thought the person who asked if there's such distance between RL Kane and RPF Kane, why does it have to be Kane at all? had a good point, albeit one no one who wants to keep writing him is going to take into consideration. Sure, you can say there's no connection, so it's okay to keep writing the RPF character no matter what the real person does. But then why are you so attached to this one player in this one ship? Why are any of us writing RPF at all?
Re: general RPF fandom discussion
From: (Anonymous)Mmm, yes, of course the author isn't going to take that point into consideration. If the author had come up with a way to justify it, it would have been something along the lines of "I'm familiar with this character and team and I don't know about other ones, so I don't know the rest of hockey "canon". Thus, I continue to write about what I know"? I don't think that's a good argument, but it's the only one I can see being made.
Why are any of us writing RPF at all?
Honestly, at this point I have no fucking idea.
Re: general RPF fandom discussion
From: (Anonymous)Re: general RPF fandom discussion
From: (Anonymous)I just don't think separation between RPF and RL is as simple as the author of the meta is trying to make it. Even with RPF characters with established characterization. If it doesn't matter who the people are in RL, you should be able to substitute anyone to whom you can attribute the same stock character traits to your Regency a/b/o mpreg (and of course, most hockey rpf is a lot more connected to canon than that; this isn't J2 RPF fandom where most of the fic is completely AU).
Re: general RPF fandom discussion
From: (Anonymous)For as closely tied to canon this rpf fandom usually is, there's also a significant subset who don't know anything or care about the canon, so it's even more complicated because it's on nearly a person to person basis. I don't write Kane/Toews and don't intent to in the future, but I don't think either choice is a simple one.
(At this point I feel like everything that can be said has been said. There's not really any more persuasion to be had, unless we're just trying to preserve this era of fandom for posterity.)
Re: general RPF fandom discussion
From: (Anonymous)Re: general RPF fandom discussion
From: (Anonymous)RPF is distant from RL, in that sane people realize we're writing fictional constructions based on players' public personas, just like sane sports fans realize they don't actually know any of their favorite players. But rpf fandom is intertwined with hockey fandom proper, in that authors often look up playing schedules, read interviews, watch games, research hockey culture and player histories, and then engage with their ideas about players' public personas in order to bridge them into (hopefully) fully realized characters. Even if Author A doesn't care about canon, Reader B might get into the canon through Author A's fic.
Which goes to my argument that RPF and canon are not so easily separated that you can say "Well, RPF doesn't have anything to do with the fandom for the real people" and leave it there. The relationship between hockey fandom and hockey rpf fandom is more complicated than that.
And if you don't think there's any point talking, you can stop.
Re: general RPF fandom discussion
From: (Anonymous)Yes, the fandoms are intertwined. But they aren't intertwined equally.
...And okay. I will move on from your subthread.
Re: general RPF fandom discussion
From: (Anonymous)I don't even know what you mean by that, and I don't think it should matter for the topic at hand. One person is saying they're easily separated as a justification for writing RPF characters no matter what their real life equivalents do. If they're not that easily separated, they're not that easily separated.
I'm okay continuing the discussion. Just not with constant assertions that there's no point in having it in every response to me.