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Re: Fic Discussion - Vinny series

From: (Anonymous)
I'm starting to get kind of impatient with both of them, moreso Anton than Vinny. From my reading of things, Anton seems to want to date Vinny, but instead of saying anything outright is dating someone else and seeing if that makes Vinny jealous. Which is a terrible life strategy which just isn't going to work, because Vinny isn't the jealous type and wouldn't say anything even if he was.

I understand why Vinny is keeping quiet on his end (trying really hard not to be the clingy friend, I sympathize), but he probably should have fessed up about his feelings for Anton a while ago. He's been in holding position for so long that it's annoying. Just say something and you'll either get the guy or get over it!

I hate fics when I end up saying "just talk to each other!!" out loud to my monitor, but this is heading in that direction.

Re: Fic Discussion - Vinny series

From: (Anonymous)
ayrt

This annoys me less than normal "just talk to each other" scenarios, because Vinny's got all these additional concerns about being ace and being convinced that he therefore isn't fit to date anyone. Actually, that's one of the reasons it's working for me so well.

Re: Fic Discussion - Vinny series

From: (Anonymous)
AYRT

That's why I've held on this long, actually - if it were part 18 in a fic without those extra concerns and with no talking, I would've given up a long time ago. But still, Vinny was clearly stuck in a holding pattern that was going to collapse one way or another. In a way I'm glad something changed, even if it is because Anton is also incapable of talking about his feelings. Maybe eventually they'll snap and actually talk to each other.

What I'm worried about is this series having an unhappy ending. Of all the fics the author writes, this is the one that I'm most invested in and think could actually work out. If it just falls apart because of bad communication...I guess that would be a realistic outcome, but it's really not the one I want.

Re: Fic Discussion - Vinny series

From: (Anonymous)
DA

People were worried about that and she confirmed that Vinny's series won't have an unhappy ending on Tumblr recently.

Re: Fic Discussion - Vinny series

From: (Anonymous)
The author has promised on tumblr that this one will have a happy ending, so there's that at least.

Re: Fic Discussion - Vinny series

From: (Anonymous)
Jinx!

Re: Fic Discussion - Vinny series

From: (Anonymous)
NA

Yeah as someone who has a love for mutual pining as a trope it is so hard to pull off without the annoying "just talk to each other" element, but I think Vinny's worries about how Anton or anyone really would deal with him being ace seems realistic.

Re: Fic Discussion - Vinny series

From: (Anonymous)
NA

It makes sense to me that Anton hasn't make a move because Vinny explicitly told him he wasn't gay, but he keeps acting like such a jerk and Vinny is so unwilling to call him out on it that it's starting to put me off shipping them. He should just go platonically cuddle that cool goalie girl.

Re: Fic Discussion - Vinny series

From: (Anonymous)
AYRT

Yeah, I understand that part of the problem is that Anton is asking the wrong questions/doesn't know that there's an option here for them to be together other than gay, but it's still so frustrating that his solution is to date someone else and monitor Vinny for signs of jealousy. That is not healthy for anyone.

I am 100% on the "go platonically cuddle that cool goalie girl" train. Vinny already doesn't seem to have a problem with his love interests hooking up with other people and the two goalies are already way better at communicating than Vinny and Anton, so it could work out perfectly! They could run a summer camp for bby goalies together.

Re: Fic Discussion - Vinny series

From: (Anonymous)
ayrt

From the way the author talked about it on tumblr I thought the conflict was going to be how they'd make a romantic but not sexual relationship work, but surly/saintly pairings and endless pining are kind of her Thing so I'm not surprised it's gone this way. Hopefully it will get more emotionally healthy eventually and if not I'm willing to co-write goalie cuddle fix-it fic.

Re: Fic Discussion - Vinny series

From: (Anonymous)
Now that I think about it, the conflict here seems a little artificial. I thought it was going to be more like that too, especially as they seemed to be nearing an understanding - wasn't it just a couple parts ago where Anton teased Vinny about sexts on his phone, Vinny said something along the lines of "you know I would never do that", and then there was a ~significant pause~ before Anton said "yeah"? I thought we were supposed to read that as Anton figuring stuff out. But here he seems like he has no idea where Vinny stands and is just trying to provoke a reaction, which is really frustrating and boring compared to the relationship negotiation I thought we'd get.

Re: Fic Discussion - Vinny series

From: (Anonymous)
Yeah, the girlfriend adds the kinda artificial drama that I enjoy in a tropetastic angsty bad!fic, but overall I think it subtracts from the quality of this fic.

Re: Fic Discussion - Vinny series

From: (Anonymous)
A day late but I want to chime in because I am way invested in those goobers:

I read the whole thing differently, actually. My impression was Anton's finally gotten the idea Vinny's asexual in the last few fics but has mistakenly assumed it's whole package, not asexual+homoromantic, attempted to accept that and is trying his damndest to get over Vinny at this point but is just... not being very good at figuring out how to do it. Maybe I'm giving him too much credit, idk. The way the whole Vinny series is written is pretty much a case study in things unsaid, both between the characters and in how the reader's supposed to pick up the larger context from Vinny's somewhat spacey perspective.

Re: Fic Discussion - Vinny series

From: (Anonymous)
NA

I kind of read it similarly, that Anton was trying to create some space between him and Vinny, but he's just really bad about doing it, going totally overboard and getting jealous when he thinks Vinny is trying to replace him.

Re: Fic Discussion - Vinny series

From: (Anonymous)
I can't imagine where Anton would have figured out that Vinny's ace, though. That's not really option #1 in most peoples' minds. I do read it as more of him trying to get over Vinny, or at least visibly put more space between them.

Re: Fic Discussion - Vinny series

From: (Anonymous)
ayrt

I wouldn't say Anton's probably thought it through enough to be like 'yes hmmm this must be one of those asexuals i have read about in this sociology textbook' but I do think he's got a firm idea by now, both through some vague affirmations from Vinny himself throughout the more recent fics and through the fact that he lives and regularly hangs out with the dude, that Vinny doesn't want to do the sex things and probably isn't going to suddenly start doing them any time soon.

Which, because they're both on this road without a map here, he's extended to "Vinny will never want to do the sex things with me and by extension this means he will never want to be my boyfriend" which is a fairly reasonable conclusion to draw, considering.

So yeah, I saw it as Anton trying to find something to fill the Vinny-shaped hole in his heart because he thinks he's figured out that the no-sex thing means Vinny won't ever want to get in there. Meanwhile Vinny's in the corner thinking he's figured out that the no-sex thing means Anton won't ever want Vinny to get in there. What a mess.

Re: Fic Discussion - Vinny series

From: (Anonymous)
I keep wanting Marc to give Anton SO MANY PAMPHLETS or *something*. I'm really hoping the "they get a happy ending" answer on tumblr is actually true, because they're the ones that would make me really sad if they don't work out.

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On the other hand, idgaf that it doesn't sound like David and Jake get a romantic HEA. Basically my David OTP is David/Therapy although I'd be all over D/s verse Kurzamov/David, so if David ends up single but closer to being a Real Boy I'm cool with that.

Re: Fic Discussion - Vinny series

From: (Anonymous)
agreed re: jake/david. the more i read about them, the more i realise they're really not good for each other. jake causes david way too much anxiety to be healthy.

Re: Fic Discussion - Vinny series

From: (Anonymous)
ayrt

plus iirc he outed david to some of his buddies without even *talking* to david about it much less getting david's approval, which is NOT FUCKING COOL. and if i remember correctly, benson's one of those guys and uses that knowledge to bully david. i refuse to reread enough to make sure i'm remembering properly, though.

(i also kind of want david/rousseau, although their collective "don't want to talk" thing would probably doom it from the start.)


Re: Fic Discussion - Vinny series

From: (Anonymous)
you're misremembering that. jake only told a couple of his closest buddies, and benson wasn't one of them, which doesn't excuse it, but i think it'd be forgiveable for anyone but david. which shows how incredible ill-suited they are for each other, imo.

Re: Fic Discussion - Vinny series

From: (Anonymous)
nayrt

I don't remember Jake outing him to Benson, but yeah, he totally outed David to some members of his (Jake's) team despite the fact that David was pretty explicit about wanting to stay in the closet.

I like where this series ended the first time, with them getting ready for their first real date. The part of me that loves that ending holds out some hope that they can get their relationship back to a healthier place, though I don't know at this point if that's even possible. So basically in my mind it ends at that first date.

Re: Fic Discussion - Vinny series

From: (Anonymous)
Hard disagree. Jake/David is the only pairing she written that I like.