#11 - Kopitar Prefers Amps That Go to Eleven

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This is the eleventh post of Deke Dangle RPF Anon, a community for all your ice hockey anon meme needs.

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Re: general RPF fandom discussion

[(Anonymous)]

Seriously. The more experienced authors will be fine, but do you think insecure, new authors will just move on to a new pairing or fandom if their first forays into fandom are met with silence, accusations, or hate?

Patrick Kane did a horrible, unforgivable thing. Let's not let that toxicity seep into the fandom through hate lists and author punishing.

Re: general RPF fandom discussion

[(Anonymous)]

If lists were actually being circulated and shared and people were encouraging blacklisting, I'd agree, but that's not what's happening. People are noting who appears to approve of the meta, the continued K/T, etc., and sometimes they discuss it, but mostly I've seen people mentioning they're unfollowing/avoiding people without naming names. I think trying to argue that's morally reprehensible is kind of reaching. Particularly since people have attempted to differentiate between people denying Kane might've raped someone and people just innocently kudos'ing fic they enjoy, except that everyone I've seen named has done both.

Re: general RPF fandom discussion

[(Anonymous)]

da

I've seen a list circulating and multiple people naming names. I'm also skeptical of the amount of differentiation going on, since people on meme today have been arguing that kudosing the new fic sends a bad message, full stop.

Re: general RPF fandom discussion

[(Anonymous)]

The list includes people who kudos innocent until proven guilty posts, are friends with that shelly girl, or have an active kane tag. There's even one who has the notation: "said they disagree with everything maja_li posted yet continues to talk with them??"

These are very different from people making pro-Kane posts, victim blaming or being rape apologists.

Re: general RPF fandom discussion

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. I don't actually mind people compiling lists theoretically. People do what they have to to protect themselves and the only way to avoid accidentally seeing pro-Kane talk is going to involve also avoiding people whose opinion are unknown or whose actions are open to interpretation such as the meaning of a kudos.

But I'm really troubled by the idea that we're all just supposed to accept that kudosing new fic (that doesn't have rape apology or misogyny as a theme) is the same as being pro-Kane which seems to be what people are saying.

Re: general RPF fandom discussion

[(Anonymous)]

Na I would love to see the list so that I could avoid people and make my fandom experience better. And a list like this could be neutral. Reading the list, I would probably not actively avoid a person who was still talking to the troll-meta writer but at the same time sv Madelyn kudos-ing a lot is kind of the straw that breaks my back. (I've never actively avoided her before; I am now. This is just an example.) That's because I have an arbitrary line in the sand that's different than yours. The list by itself would not suggest that I shouldn't have that line by not listing it and it wouldn't suggest you should have this line by listing it.

I think the far, far bigger issue here is if this list morphs from being a centeralized collection of information to a witch hunting hit list.

Re: general RPF fandom discussion

[(Anonymous)]

We are not obligated to kudos any new trash that gets posted to the AO3 because we're afraid that silence will drive those people away. That is a ludicrous position to hold. Plenty of people's first stories get very little in the way of feedback. They will be fine.

Re: general RPF fandom discussion

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Re: general RPF fandom discussion

[(Anonymous)]

Discouraging new authors from getting into Kane/Toews is a feature not a bug IMO. I don't approve of anon hate etc, but I'm very okay with no kudos.