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Re: Things You Wouldn't Admit Off Anon
From: (Anonymous)Rapid heartbeat always points to drugs to me, and I think it's weird that today's reporters seemingly never ask about that in these situations.
Re: Things You Wouldn't Admit Off Anon
From: (Anonymous)I would imagine that reporters do ask and maybe they find out, but it's a matter of not wanting to lose sources or credentials if the team doesn't want it out there publicly.
I do remember them saying there wasn't anything wrong with his heart but not really going into any detail beyond that.
Re: Things You Wouldn't Admit Off Anon
From: (Anonymous)From what I've seen of the coverage of other incidents over the past several months, they don't seem to be asking privately either, but I was talking about asking in their professional capacity as reporters. I think it's weird they don't do that. If the teams don't want to answer it, there is a whole range of options available to the teams. Also, I know I said reporters, but I really meant the media in general. There's no pundits or podcasters asking the question either.
I think it's just a change in how people see things. If this was the 90s, the question would be asked. But nowadays, people pretend drug problems don't exist among atheletes unless someone gets arrested.
As for Ryan Johansen, I believe the actual phrasing was something like his medical testing was not for a heart issue.
Re: Things You Wouldn't Admit Off Anon
From: (Anonymous)Well maybe not drugs specifically, but I was mostly thinking in the context of how when things get out there's a lot of "oh yeah, this was known around the league" stories after the fact. Like the whole thing with the Jets vs Kane's tracksuits thing that apparently everyone in the media knew about. Or the Stamkos vs Cooper stuff only being talked about now when people think he won't re-sign. Maybe it is just a newsworthiness thing, but it seems like there's a lot that doesn't get said.
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From: (Anonymous)I was thinking of drugs specifically.
Oh, yeah, there are definitely things that are known around the league that media folk are complicit in keeping quiet. Although, I don't think those two things are good examples. There have been less-than-credible rumors. Like I remember hearing rumors all the way back at the beginning of last season that Steven Stamkos was upset at his usage with his new coach and that Tyler Johnson was coach's pet. And both Don Cherry and Steve Simmons (so grain of salt, because Cherry & Simmons) were claiming during the playoffs there was a Cooper/Stamkos rift. It's not just something coming up now. Ditto for the Jets/Kane stuff.
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From: (Anonymous)I really don't think it's a matter of teams not sharing. I don't think the reporters are even asking the question. Which may be because they see it as a waste of time, because they won't get a straight answer they can report on. But there's certainly no legal impediment to them asking.
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From: (Anonymous)If you are a sports journalist, you don't advance your career by outing drug users and potentially slandering the organization, and if you're an investigative journalist you're probably too busy caring about more important things happening in the business world to give a shit about athletes snorting coke.
Re: Things You Wouldn't Admit Off Anon
From: (Anonymous)Also, the beat reporters for the smaller teams that only have one or two dedicated beat reporters (like, say, CBJ), are almost more part of the organization than they are an independent reporter. I mean, they are an independent reporter? But when they're one of just a couple of people that regularly reports on the team, they know all these guys. They're with these guys day in and day out, traveling around the continent with them, and neither they nor the team can afford to piss each other off, because they need each other and they're all they have. They can be more critical of the team than anyone inside the org can, but they're also not going to rock the boat too hard.
It's a different dynamic than it is for places like Toronto/Montreal/Boston/Chicago/Pittsburgh/Philly where there are enough beat reporters out there from lots of different media sources. They're not quite as tightly symbiotic.
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From: (Anonymous)I don't know what the laws in Canada are, but in the United States, they'd have to be actually saying that drugs were involved, not asking if that was the case, and they'd have to be wrong for it to be libel or slander.
Re: Things You Wouldn't Admit Off Anon
From: (Anonymous)The medical testing recently wasn't, but he did have testing over the summer for a heart issue.
There aren't really any people in the local media who ask controversial questions, though these things might come up now that there's more national attention from the healthy scratch (which there wouldn't be except that it's Torts, and so Canadian media has a script because of Vancouver).
Re: Things You Wouldn't Admit Off Anon
From: (Anonymous)I think it's almost naive nowadays to expect reporters to report the truth, if they think it'll lose them an "in" with the team. So when I read stuff, I always am aware it's highly biased.
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From: (Anonymous)Did you have an one-time unexplained rapid heart beat that was reported in the media and then dropped with no cause or explanation found? That's the situation I'm referring to. Not every rapid heartbeat, but specifically unexplained ones reported in the media.
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From: (Anonymous)In my (not American) country addiction is off limits unless it's been brought into the press sphere by the person themselves. I guess beat writers know who's cheating, who's addicted and possibly who's gay, but they will not publish it, because that is crossing the line. Not just to keep sources but over here it would also be to keep your job and your ability to ever get a job in that field again.