#18 – If you owned a bar, how cheap would your shots be?

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Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

what do you even want people to write instead

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

DA

How about anyone over the age of 25. Or over the age of 30. Or Jagr fic! Jagr fic would be great.

Or hell, write me some now retired Selanne/Kariya epics, I'd be all over that.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

I would even take anyone over the age of 21.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Sa

But yes, all of your suggestions are good. How has no one written Jagr perpetually traveling from team to team to league to league and back because he's over 40 and weirdly never soul bonded until he gets to know that one Panthers teammate/equipment manager/reporter? Or the one where Paul always assumed that after he retired Teemu would just declare they were a couple and move in, only Teemu goes home to Finland and Paul realizes to his horror that *he's* going to have to do the wooing?

Where. Are. Those. Stories?

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

NA I don't know but I want them so much. Especially all the Paul/Teemu stories.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

well, it seems to me like a lot of the people writing about these "babies" are college-aged themselves so...

you don't find that stage of life interesting, fine, but authors can just as easily find Actual Adulthood uninspiring.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

My problem is that I found that stage of life uninteresting even when I was that age. I mean, when I was in high school my primary fandom was The Sentinel, which is a show about a late 20-something and a dude pushing 40.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

yeah, that's still fairly common (see: superwholock). but my would-be draft year just passed, and i, for one, am enjoying reading about teenagers acting like teenagers without the embarrassmentnostalgia that older writers tend cast over their fic. when they're not dismissing this time period as boring and unworthy of writing about, i guess.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

They are free to post their own vents if they do.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think I, as a sophomore in college, would be able to write about older players accurately. I don't know what it feels like to consider retirement and end a career, for example. People in their twenties or even rookies are easier for me. The one fic I've written was about characters when they were in their early twenties.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Almost no one in fandom knows what it personally feels like to consider retirement, so don't let that stop you. I mean, even the older people around meme are in their 40s, from the few times people have said ages. And in all the years I've been in wider fandom I've only ever even heard of 2 active people over 60, one of whom I've never overlapped fandoms with. It's like anything else from being a professional athlete to a new bakery owner, you relate it to other things that you do know.

That said, a lot of the original objection to Marner/Strome/McDavid/Eichel was that they haven't done anything yet that a story could be hooked on, which is only somewhat an age objection. They're being written as blank slates without much personality or characterization or narrative. Strome and Marner aren't even out of juniors yet. With the draft situation, I can see how you can get some a few interesting stories out of McDavid or Eichel as main characters but it's been pretty well explored now, and author's seemingly have no other place to go with it, so it's getting a bit cookie cutter.

There's plenty of younger people who do have stuff going on that could be being written about the Drouin drama, or characterization for like Max Domi or even 18-year olds who have accomplished a lot in the last couple of months like Dylan Larkin.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know, McDavid and Eichel have done stuff a story could be hooked on (pressure is the main thing, but if you want to look at accomplishments, everything Eichel did in college last year to then lose in the national championship, or how McDavid's team got shut down before the Memorial Cup) and Strome and Marner have a history that sets itself up for longfic. Domi/Duclair fluff is cute but can be repetitive too. It's about what people chose to write about. Plus the season is halfway over now and more will keep happening.

Ultimately if you want fic about certain players- and I mean this generally, not about you specifically- I think it's better to write it or prompt it on the kinkmeme, or encourage it with posts/primers. I've been in a lot of fandoms where ships were based on less, and on characters with only a few minutes of screen time, or who barely canonically interacted. I don't write a lot in this fandom but I would be more likely to respond to an interesting prompt on the kinkmeme than someone telling me a ship I had read and enjoyed was boring.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

na

Re: second paragraph

I never understand why people say things like "Ultimately if you want fic about certain players ... I think it's better to write it or prompt it on the kinkmeme, or encourage it with posts/primers" in response to someone saying why they don't like a ship. How do you know whoever you're giving this advice to isn't writing, reccing, prompting, posting .gif sets, etc. for their preferred ships?

Ultimately, it reads as "don't ever say that my ships are boring or no one will ever write your favorites!" And this is an anon meme. People are allowed to dislike ships, and to say why they dislike those ships, and saying those things does not mean they're not doing positive things for their favorite ships elsewhere. I sincerely doubt anyone calls a ship boring in the hopes that those who OTP it will go, "omg ur rite imma write ur unspecified fave instead." It's to vent or commiserate with people who feel similarly or offer explanation, etc. etc. etc.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

For your first paragraph, you're absolutely right, I don't know. And they very well might be doing positive things, I shouldn't assume.

The anon I was responding to was directly talking about me writing retired players, though? There also reads, to me, a difference between 'this is boring and I'm personally not interested in reading it/I personally don't like it' and 'there's nothing to base this ship off of/why do people write this' because the latter- it's fandom. When it comes to that my attitude is always going to veer towards ship what you want for whatever reason you want. That's more what I was responding to, but I also just woke up, so maybe I was misinterpreting the original response in the conversation.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

I read that as a fairly general response about writing things you don't have experience with. You didn't even talk about writing the draft class of 2015, just players in their early 20s.

I generally agree that shipping doesn't require much justification.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

DA Sometimes it's hard to make anything happen even when you're doing that, so I can understand people getting frustrated. I've been prompting fic for my pet rarepairs, including some that get quite a bit of anon chatter, but I just ended up filling one of my own prompts because a) no one else was writing it and b) no one else was actually prompting anything for it either.

That said, I don't begrudge the McEichel people doing their thing, especially since I doubt they'd be writing for, like, my team's third liners and whatever other fandom nobodies I ship even if they weren't.