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Re: Fic Discussion

From: (Anonymous)
For the love of god. Junior. It's Junior. Juniors is where you buy cheesecake.

/Jeff Marek voice

Re: Fic Discussion

From: (Anonymous)
DA

If it's men's hockey and women's hockey, it can damn well be juniors. Jeff Marek is not the boss of me. Thank goodness, because he's kind of an ass.

And why wouldn't it be juniors anyway? You're talking about at least three different leagues, if not more.

Re: Fic Discussion

From: (Anonymous)
AYRT

Because it's the Major Junior hockey league. Quebec Major Junior Hockey League, right? Sid wasn't in all three different leagues; no one is.

It's also meant to differentiate between Major Junior and World Juniors, which is a different thing.

Think of how weird this sounds: "When I was in Nationals Hockey League...I had this teammate back in Nationals..." It's just wrong.

Re: Fic Discussion

From: (Anonymous)
While grammatical arguments are often useful for actually figuring out the common phrase, I'm most interested in what is colloquially used, not what would be "correct". I certainly don't know, all my usage is picked up from fic. Does anyone know what actual hockey players who came up through one of the Canadian junior leagues call it?

Re: Fic Discussion

From: (Anonymous)
DA

They mostly seem to refer specifically to "the Q" and "the O", instead. I don't remember what they call the third one.

Re: Fic Discussion

From: (Anonymous)
The Dub.

Re: Fic Discussion

From: (Anonymous)
The "dub" (w).

Re: Fic Discussion

From: (Anonymous)
NA

I did a search and came to the conclusion that NHL.com tends to use juniors more than junior. Junior is usually used as an adjective, eg junior team, whereas juniors stands alone. See this article for examples of both: https://www.nhl.com/news/clock-ticks-for-junior-aged-prospects-on-nhl-rosters/c-736544 At one point junior is used as a standalone, but it's usually juniors.

A broader search showed that media sources also tend to use juniors over junior.

I'm not saying you're wrong necessarily about how it should be, just that common usage is a thing, and it seems to be a thing pointing towards juniors.

Re: Fic Discussion

From: (Anonymous)
na

Bless you and your researching ways, anon.

Re: Fic Discussion

From: (Anonymous)
NA

This is the way that I've always heard people use the terms IRL, too.

Juniors = any (or all) of the three junior leagues, usually used to signify the level of play ("So-and-so played for Tri-City in Juniors" or "When so-and-so was in Juniors...")

Junior (team) = used in the context of a specific team ("So-and-so's junior team, the Brandon Wheat Kings...")

Juniors can also be used to refer to World Juniors, but you can usually tell the difference between the two by context, and most people tend to specify World Juniors.

/nonny who has a CHL team in her city

Re: Fic Discussion

From: (Anonymous)
AYRT

So, your objection is only to when the Q is spoken about? When people are talking about the leagues as a group or the Dub or the O (neither of which have major junior in their name), you don't care if they use juniors? That seems a very narrow rule.

Think of how weird this sounds: "When I was in Nationals Hockey League...I had this teammate back in Nationals..." It's just wrong.

It sounds wrong, because that's not the equivalent. It's the equivalent of "pros" or "minors." When I was in the pros. You wouldn't say "when I was in the pro" or "when I was in the minor." That's just wrong.

Re: Fic Discussion

From: (Anonymous)
Also Stanley Cup playoffs vs Stanley Cup Final. There are many playoffs but only one Final.

Re: Fic Discussion

From: (Anonymous)
NA

While I think it's technically incorrect people do also say "Stanley Cup Finals" because it's more than one game.