#23 — Brown Goes Down

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This is the twenty-third post of Deke Dangle RPF Anon, a community for all your ice hockey anon meme needs.

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Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

You can have infidelity in an HEA fic too theoretically, the couple work through it and move on to their real HEA. I feel like people keep setting up this false dichotomy between fluff romance and darker literary plot fic, that isn't really an issue.

I've always liked happy ending romances, and even I don't find the fic these days very satisfying. There's just a general lack of the characters doing things and making choices and in the end they are so passive and the storylines are so thin, the authors can't even include an ending. The stories just stop before the denouement.

(Not specifically a reply just to you, but something I've been thinking about while reading this thread.)

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

This. The capacity for growth is tied to the capacity for mistakes, and to make characters devoid of the latter strips them of their agency. And yes, erases the need for an ending, because there's no story because there's no change.

Which is what I find really troubling in a lot of the push against 'problematic' fic: The characters that get the cinnamon roll treatment can't have any flaws or mistakes; they can't grow and change as people; they aren't treated people so much as chess pieces to be moved by an author.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

You can have infidelity in an HEA fic too theoretically

Honestly, I don't think I've encountered infidelity in a fic that didn't have a happy ending. Either the cheating is on the Wrong Partner, so it's in service of a happy ending for the Real Couple, or the parties work it out. Or the cheating party only thought they cheated.

I don't mind happy endings, but I want them to be earned. I just can't care about perfect people who just don't realize how perfect they are getting a happy ending when their romantic interest says "btw you're perfect."

I also think that what people really don't seem to like these days is angst, especially where angst is caused by characters not being perfect cinnamon rolls.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

na

angst is my very favourite thing in the whole world (well, in fanfic) and I feel like it mostly happens in mutual pining fic now which, don't get me wrong, I adore, but I still miss some variety.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

da

Me, toooooo. And yeah, I love mutual pining, which I definitely hadn't encountered in this volume before hockey fandom, but I want other stuff, too.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

I know it's a different sport, but I feel like baseball had the absolute market on that, if you're interested at all.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Honestly not my sport at all (in that I don't know the rules...), but I'm still interested if you have any recs or names handy?

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Another anon posted these a while ago, but it's a good place to start: http://dekedangle-rpfanon.dreamwidth.org/2917.html?thread=12035429#cmt12035429

Basically, candlebeck, americanleaguer and synchronik are good places to start. Sophiahelix, who writes hockey as well, has written some good stuff too.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Thanks! *rubs hands* Good thing that tomorrow is a holiday here, lol.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

da

Have fun. http://archiveofourown.org/users/candle_beck/pseuds/candle_beck/works?fandom_id=26538

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like we should send this deker tissues or something.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

I think so too. They're gonna need them.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you! I will if there's angst. ;)

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

My sweet summer child ...

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

This isn't my first rodeo!

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Candle-beck is next-level angst is just what I meant, :D. But now I want angsty rodeo AU fic ...

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

... This just makes me more excited, lol.

What would an angsty rodeo fic look like, I wonder...

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Brokeback Mountain???

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

IDK, but I def want Kuznetsov in it. Angsty Russian rodeo fic!

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Dallas dressing room post-game 7.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Baseball may not be the fandom for you if you aren't interested in the sport, tbh. IME the best fics in the fandom, including the ones people are reccing, tend to lean pretty heavily on real games/seasons, the politics of the clubhouse, the hierarchy of the various leagues, even straight up statistics, with a huge dollop of an almost mystical reverence for ~the game~ (I think it's because of the wannabe-Ken Burns thing that also infects the sports side of the fandom, but idk). I did enjoy some of the fics even before I got heavily into the sport, but FTR I'm American, knew the rules and grew up steeped in, well, Ken Burns and Field of Dreams and all that.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

It's not exactly that I'm not interested, just that beside one or two children's movies I've had zero contact with the sport. It's very much Not A Thing here, not irl or even on tv, so I've never been exposed to it...

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Unfortunately I hate mutual pining with every fiber of my soul, mostly because of overexposure in this fandom. I feel like it's acceptable because both parties can angst without ever doing anything wrong or ever coming into conflict, because they only have to realize that their feelings are returned by someone who obviously adores them.

Its not like I want unacknowledged abuse fics 24/7, either. I just want character growth. And angst based in real problems.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

What kind of angst would you like to see?

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

This will probably make me sound like a terrible person, but for example dealing with trauma (for example childhood trauma), serious injury or depression as more "external factors", then struggling with relationships because of different expectations regarding the future (children or no? one wants an open relationship the other does not etc), long distance relationships (which hockey seems perfect for and there is some, so that's good), and I also just like fic in general that deals with more serious flaws of character like homophobia as an obvious example.

There's probably a lot more, but this is what I thought of first.

I feel like there was wank about even the concept of most of these at some point so I don't write it often or when I do, I don't post it...