dekedangle_rpfanon | #24 – Not Sure If Serious or Playing Dumba

#24 – Not Sure If Serious or Playing Dumba

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da

It's not like any of those individual items is untrue, though, and collectively they're a lot of what is making this team fun to watch, IMO. I'd probably leave off, like, Kunitz, but as a whole? Yeah, there a ton of good stories there, and that's part of the fun.

NA I'm a Negative Nancy when it comes to my team or team I support casually. It just makes it hurt less when they fail. Thanks Bolts/Blues.

DA
and literally every team has a #narrative. They actually made that point in that dumb showtime series. You might like your narrative the best, but every eliminated team could probably come up with just as many things that they've overcome or reasons they should win.

ayrt

I more meant money in terms of not having enough of it - they're a budget team, after all. But I've never looked too closely at what they did with the money they did have, so, thanks.

Every 👏 team 👏 could 👏 say 👏 the 👏 same 👏 thing 👏👏👏

They're all charming bands of scrappy misfit millionaires in the end, I suppose.

I mean, it is (minus Kunitz, loool), but it's not beyond mid-grade 'scrap.' Maybe pluck, a lot of good management decisions that look like luck, and a fan who can't seem to see the difference. There's enjoying those storylines and there's buying into that narrative, and you can do the former without doing the latter.

I don't think anybody saying the Pens should win because of these reasons. I think they're saying it's gratifying that they have won, because of these reasons.

da

There's a difference between saying "these things make love my team" and "these things make us scrappy misfits so it's funny that people perceive us as the villain rather than the underdog." I mean, sure, but in the end, you're still a team with Crosby and Malkin and Kessel and Letang. I'm also a Pens fan, but it's a little Too Much.

I feel this is the norm for all star players over a certain age when they lose though. I've recently read articles about trading Lundqvist, Rask, Ovi etc.

By which I mean, Hockey media is garbage and needs to be more creative about the content they produce.

Cool! that doesn't make them untrue for any team, then?

Maybe there can only be One True Scrappy Team (and it has to be CBJ or a team that has used the hashtag #pesky_______)

ayrt

I didn't say they couldn't. Does that mean Pens fans shouldn't enjoy things about their team unless those things are ~unique? It's not like of any of us are tallying up all the possible feel-good stories in a column and picking our favorite team based on it. But if we have a team and it has feel-good things about it, why on earth wouldn't we be excited about them?

No, I'm pretty sure I've seen Pens fans saying they think the Pens deserve it the most this year because of x y and z. "It sure would be great if my team won it all because of The Narrative" is basically the same thing as "I enjoy watching my team win because of The Narrative", they're not exactly separate opinions.

This.

Wow I used to not care about made up games/boc scores in fic and rolled my eyes at the people who noted for that in their A/N but now I do care. I got thrown out of a fic.

Hockey media is garbage

On this, I think we can ALL agree.

That... literally has nothing to do with what people are discussing. Way to miss the point, genius.

ayrt

I wouldn't really consider them a budget team. This season they ended up only $3.4 mil short of the cap ceiling (by comparison, the Ducks were $7.4 mil short). Their actual salary expenditure was a little less, but when I think "budget team," I think of teams perennially looking to meet the floor, which CBJ is not.

Surely only if you know what the actual game/box score would have been? If I read a Flyers fic set five years ago, the chances I will know the difference (outside of certain playoffs series) are absolutely nil.

NA

I think the problem here is that someone came in saying "it's so funny that people see my scrappy misfit team as villains!", which kind of implies that they are especially scrappy or misfit-y. If they're only a scrappy misfit team as much as any other team, then there's no especially amusing juxtaposition there - try subbing in any other team name (like, for example, the Flyers or CBJ) and you can see how annoying it is. "Oh, it's so funny that Pens fans see my team as villains when really they're scrappy and love each other!" No, they see your team as opponents who they don't like and don't want to win for a variety of reasons. (The decision to call them "villains" is also weird as hell - people don't want the Pens to win for a variety of reasons, but literal villains? Ehhh. Even the people who hate them and call them evil are exaggerating for comic effect. I don't think there's any serious contingent that thinks the Pens shouldn't win because they're downright evil, instead of because they're a divisional rival or their fans are annoying or they won too recently or or or.)

tl;dr Fake exceptionalism and misrepresentation of other people's point of view is annoying, hence the response.

ayrt

This blows up all my impressions of them, then. Now their perpetual basement dwelling is a little funnier.

I feel like I don't see bloggers talking about them or the roster a lot, either. If anyone has any recentish articles (last year or two) they'd recommend, I'd appreciate them. I'm curious now!

NA

That was exactly my feeling too. And I was sort of bracing myself, because for some reason I saw it coming, but I'm still bitter about it.

Kay, I'll try.

Joe Thornton call a playoff choker for most of his career. Boston ditch him because they felt he was going to be a loser for life that they took a shitty return to trade him.

Sharks chocking against the King who end up winning the cup. Then force to face their enemy on their way to the SCF.

Thinking about it the Sharks has a better story line and player stories.

over a certain age

He's TWENTY EIGHT.

Sorry, anon, not yelling at you, but good grief they really did jump the gun with him. Forwards peak at what, 26 or 27?

I read the first few chapters, which were really individual stories. They were pretty bad.

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