#24 – Not Sure If Serious or Playing Dumba

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Re: General post-SCF thread

[(Anonymous)]

Quantifiable evidence of a certain degree/amount of injury =/= believing that a team is injured all the time because they have an injury curse??? Pens fans complain about how injured they are/how that impacts their team all the time, sure, but they're talking about concussions and life-threatening ailments, not missing teeth. None of that translates into being serious about being cursed, lol.

Re: General post-SCF thread

[(Anonymous)]

Okay but the Penguins kicked that ~curse's~ butt https://twitter.com/ManGamesLostNHL/status/742333383334891520

Take that, curse!

Re: General post-SCF thread

[(Anonymous)]

Shouldn't that be a year by year measure anyway? Clumping all the years together seems deceptive and not like it would tell you much.

Re: General post-SCF thread

[(Anonymous)]

It tells you the trend. This is a generally healthy/unhealthy team, based on the usual amount of man games lost. Which smooths out really good and bad years' worth of data.

Re: General post-SCF thread

[(Anonymous)]

But how can unrelated injuries be a trend? If a team is injured a lot one year, they are going to have fewer wins that year, sure. But if at team is injured a lot five years ago, how does that say anything about their chances of winning games now?

The really good years and the really bad shouldn't be smoothed out; those should be considered the significant times for identifying a pattern.

Re: General post-SCF thread

[(Anonymous)]

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I think both would be informative, in different ways. Sometimes injuries are totally unrelated from each other, but sometimes they can share related causes (a team systematically overtraining or not following good recovery practices, a player being injury prone). So I think seeing the cumulative data does have value, especially since the chart only records how many games are missed due to injury, but we all know that players also spend plenty of time playing injured, and those injuries affect their performance, too. So I do care to know which teams "tend" to be injured. But I'd also like to see that data with the years separated out and how it corresponds to cup performance by year.

Re: General post-SCF thread

[(Anonymous)]

ITT using stats = belief in the supernatural. Which actually explains a lot about how people talk about stats.

Re: General post-SCF thread

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe I wasn't clear or I'm just confused but when I hear "injury curse" I don't think literal supernatural powers cursing the team, but more like "really really bad injury luck, maybe bad luck that is worse than any other team". I don't think there are Pens fans that literally believe in a supernatural curse, but plenty that believe in Extra Bad Luck. I guess I just misinterpreted.

Re: General post-SCF thread

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, discussions about the supposed Consol curse tend to be followed up by suggestions about exorcism, so. Whether the Pens' injuries are actually due to luck, overtraining (obviously not all of them, but), whatever, statistical evidence (compiled by a neutral party) is a reality, not something that Pens fans are choosing to "believe in." (Whether Pens fans' complaining is disproportionate or excessive is another question.)