dekedangle_rpfanon | #26 — Vanek! with a Jurco

#26 — Vanek! with a Jurco

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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/low-key-stanley-cup-party-kessels-way-of-saying-thanks/article31183543/

PK Subban came to Phil Kessel's Stanley Cup party in Toronto, in a cowboy hat. I didn't even know they were friends, but I love it. I guess they probably met during summer training, or promotion events?

This election has been making me think a lot about what other people's politics mean to me, and I wonder if the flip side of not caring too much if players are Trump supporters is being not all that impressed by players being """good""". Especially with the kind of fandom adulation that brings... like, I feel like I am becoming more and more disenchanted with Ben Scrivens and everyone's worship of him, after hearing him talk so forcefully over queer people re: the NHL's response to Andrew Shaw's use of a slur. Which, no one is perfect, but added to a few years ago when he whitesplained blackface to defend Raffi Torres doing it (he read the wikipedia article! it's a "gargantuan leap" to connect the two!!)... idk. It makes me wonder why I allowed myself to think SO highly of him (and others) and why I allowed him being "good" to mean so much to me, when in other contexts, I've personally held people to higher standards than that and judged them when they didn't meet them (like, think of how fandom interacts with each other, think of tumblr). I'm a hockey fan, of course I understand that having hockey players stand up for important issues IS meaningful!! but... it just unsettles me that I thought so highly of a white man for what, in different circles, is basically no more than some of what's part of being a decent human being... just because he's a marginal NHL player? I feel like I can't talk about this in namespace without people feeling like I'm attacking or subtweeting them, and that's not my intention at all -- it's just something that has more and more been making me reflect on myself in a kind of uncomfortable way, and I sort of wonder if anyone else feels them same :/

I'm going to let you do the heavy lifting nonnie - because you've been awesome and this is crazy useful. But this picture from Justin Schultz's cup day fills my heart with joy.

https://twitter.com/keeperofthecup/status/758930138759254016

I mean, that's fair, but as you said, no one's perfect, we're all always learning, and compared to the vast majority of his peers, he's aces and seems to be trying to be better still. That's all I can ask of any celebrity I'm going to throw my support and/or money at.

Better than let's say Sidney Crosby and Jonathan Toews vaguely saying an LGBTQ athlete would absolutely be welcome in the League, getting fandom praise undeservedly heaped on them for their minimal effort, and then dismissing Andrew Shaw's slur fuckery 2 years later.

I'm not surprised at all considering the high vibe, organic garden side of his personality that everyone thought was fanon exaggeration until it turned out to be real.

This is not so much a vent as it is a lament. But I'm currently involved in a fic exchange that I was really happy about until I snooped on my gift recipient's blog (to try and include some more of their likes in the story) and found out they're a hardcore PKane supporter.

I know, I know. That's the risk you run etc etc. But the blatant support bothers me. It really does. The exchange is for a completely different team so I figured I was safe?

But am I completely naive? Whinging for nothing? I just... It bothers me and I have no-one I can really share this with because my beta says I need to suck it up and get over it.

There's this joke I saw on tumblr that captures my feelings on this pretty well: "A male feminist walked into a bar...because it was set so damn low."

I think to a certain extent I just accept that the average NHL player is not someone I would consider a good person. As a group, my expectations for them are so much lower that my standards have also fallen in this one area, to the extent that I'm pleasantly surprised even when someone does what would be the bare minimum (or less) in other circumstances. So he's lauded basically because he's better than his peers, even if he's really nothing special in any other context.

+1

This endorsement brought to you by the laughable person on my timeline who is absolutely convinced that Sidney Crosby is the world's biggest supporter of women's hockey because his sister plays college hockey and also because he stood next to Poulin and Wickenheiser in some photos this week.

If my eyes rolled any harder, they'd fall right out of my skull.

I'm mad, because I actually find these twitter-revealed sides of him hilarious and I would have eaten up more of that coming into his characterization with a spoon if the entire Hawks organization hadn't blown up any and all goodwill I had for them in one hot minute.

Me too. Before last summer I would have been all over it.

It's true that he'd be nothing special in many other contexts, but at the same time, context matters. Ben Scrivens is far from perfect and should not be worshiped unreservedly, but I still think it's admirable for a person in such a cesspool environment that puts such a high premium on conformity to not only hold more progressive views, but to actively express them. And yeah, he's a straight white dude, and thus has a lot less to lose than others do by not conforming (see Subban, PK), but he's actively sought to use his privilege for good, which is more than I can say for most of his peers. We should still call him out when he fucks up, of course. But I don't think it's wrong for people to like him for the good things he has done/said, and I don't think those things are nothing.

You know what gets me about the whole situation? That they didn't even get punished for hitching their cart to a lame horse. Sure, they might have lost some fans. But there were many more who let their true colors show, online and in the stands. And more people still coming to the Hawks who won't know or care. And he won the fucking Art Ross to boot, which is surely proof that there is no karma in this world.

Yeah... :/ I feel like at this point the most realistic thing to "hope for" is that they start to spiral (some more) because of all the big contracts.

I got far enough to think, "You, uh, appear to have gotten your Strome and Marner characterizations backwards," and then I figured I do not have nearly enough nostalgia to get through it.

Karma isn't instantaneous and may not even be apparent in life.

How does anyone ever find a beta, tbh?

SA
crap, I put that in the wrong place. Disregard.

AYRT

I don't think anyone said it's wrong for people to like him? AIRT was expressing confusion at their own feelings that they felt were excessive, and I was explaining my own because I feel similarly. I can't speak for them, but I'm not really making an argument for how other people should feel, just talking through how I feel.

Of course I'm going to like a dude who expresses progressive views more than one who doesn't, but I don't feel like the context should really give him that big a leg-up in my eyes. I know plenty of people who come from environments that are equally if not more homophobic and I don't give them cookies for going to Pride or arguing with douchebags on Twitter, so why should it be any different for him?

Brandon Bollig (in sunglasses) with his cat (in sunglasses): https://www.instagram.com/p/BIc7kIehAZ7/?taken-by=bollig87&hl=en

This made my day brighter. Hope it does the same for some of you.

Your beta is correct.

Ah, that is disappointing, nonny. I understand how you feel - having a recip who creeps you out can really suck the fun out of an exchange. Unfortunately I think there's no way around it.

Lol, even if it was the wrong place, I often ask myself the same question.

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/bobby-ryan-dear-mom/

Bobby Ryan's Player Tribune article.

She sounds like she was a really amazing person. Especially this bit:

Sometimes you’d open up about our financial struggles, but never anything to put a burden on me. I knew you were worn down. I could see it. You worked 16 hours a day so that I could realize my dreams of becoming a professional hockey player. You got a job as the assistant GM at the rink during the day so that I could skate for free, and you worked at the check-in desk for an airline at night so I could fly on standby to go to tournaments with my travel team. And somehow you also found time to homeschool me, make me dinner and teach me how to be a man.

Just...holy crap, I would die. It must have taken incredible strength to do all that for years.

this made me cry :(

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