dekedangle_rpfanon | #26 — Vanek! with a Jurco

#26 — Vanek! with a Jurco

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So, nominations are open through 9AM UTC on the 17th, and so far, based on my shaking of the tagset, what we've got nominated is:

Caps - Alexander Ovechkin, Nicklas Backstrom, John Carlson, Braden Holtby
Isles - Nick Leddy, Anders Lee, Ryan Strome, John Tavares
Panthers - Aaron Ekblad, Jaromir Jagr, Megan Mitchell, Willie Mitchell
Rangers - Ryan McDonagh, Derek Stepan
Stars - Kari Lehtonen, Antti Niemi
Women's Hockey - Kacey Bellamy, Julie Chu, Meghan Duggan, Marie-Philip Poulin

...and PK Subban and Carey Price under Hockey RPF, which means the mods are pretty much guaranteed to nix them, since Hockey RPF gets specifically namechecked in the rules as the kind of umbrella fandom you aren't allowed to nominate under.

Huh, I thought all hockey rpf was disallowed no matter what you nominated it under.

'Hockey RPF' as a fandom is not allowed, but individual teams are allowed. You can only nominate characters with fewer than 1000 fics (no filters).

Ahh okay, thank you! Seems like a stupid rule if it's so easy to circumvent, but fine with me!

NA

I think the Yuletide mods are of two minds about it too, lol. There's always some weirdness about how to deal with different "types" of canons, and it seems like the consensus with hockey RPF is that it's a series of interconnecting canons instead of all one. Then to deal with the fact that there's trades and people always try to circumvent rules, there's the 1000 fic rule for real people.

It falls in line with how they treat RPF in general, which is basically the only area of Yuletide that is rare character-based instead of rare canon-based. So it's not really that nominating Price/Subban would be circumventing the rules (as they definitely have less than 1000 works on AO3 and FF.net) so much as the nominator made a mistake with their nomination that rendered it ineligible. Same as if I accidentally nominated Black Widow (MCU) instead of Black Widow (Black Widow Comics).

It's actually meant to promote easier offering/matching, as well, since you can only offer/request two to four specified characters in a given fandom or 'any'. So, for instance, if all the characters named above were lumped into one famdom, and I felt like I could offer Ovechkin, Backstrom, Price, Subban, Niemi and Lehtonen, then I'd either have to not offer two of them or gamble on offering the whole set if I wanted to write in the fandom. Whereas this way, I could just offer each of those pairs under their respective teams (if someone had nominated PK and Carey correctly) and have a chance of matching on all of the characters I want to write!

It's a really, really simple rule, and people still manage to fuck it up! See example #2 from this year's noms: somebody trying to get Sid and Claude in under Pens RPF. Which, uh, Sid is one of literally 5 characters who have too many fics written about them to not qualify in the realm of hockey...and, at least in this reality, CLAUDE GIROUX HAS NEVER PLAYED FOR THE PENS. This should not be hard, people....

Okay, I can guess the top four, but without looking it up I'm at a loss for #5... Seguin, maybe? Or one of Keith/Seabrook?

NA

Seguin is tagged in 1056 fics on AO3, so it would probably be him.

It' Seguin. Neither Keith nor Seabrook is even close. Sharp would have been a better guess, but he's not particularly close, either.

Also, what makes this rule even more wishy-washy is that a lot of people, if they tag a ship A/B, won't bother with tagging A and B as individual characters, and the character filter doesn't take ships into account at all. So those numbers are undercounting.

Re: Exchanges, etc - Yuletide

(Anonymous) - 2016-09-16 17:27 (UTC) - Expand

Anything new? I'm thinking of doing last minute noms, but I don't know how to shake the tag set.

More Panthers: Trocheck, Bjugstad, Rau, Luongo
Mighty Ducks of Anaheim: Selanne, Kariya
Flyers: Briere, Giroux, Simmonds, Gohistebere
Pens: Kessel, Hagelin

...and PK and Carey also in under Habs!

http://archiveofourown.org/tag_sets/1450/

YT tagset is open and there's a whole lot of hockey in there.

I'm a bit sad that whoever also nominated Stars obviously wants totally different fic to me since they nominated Katie Hoaldridge and I'm not into WAGs in fic.

Ten teams, plus Women's Hockey, though I'm surprised nobody nommed Team NA, since that obvs has places to go...

Dallas Stars RPF - Ales Hemsky, Antti Niemi, Jamie Benn, Jordie Benn, Justin Courtnall, Kari Lehtonen, Katie Hoaldridge, Radek Faksa
Florida Panthers RPF - Aaron Ekblad, Jaromír Jágr, Kyle Rau, Megan Mitchell, Nick Bjugstad, Roberto Luongo, Vincent Trocheck, Willie Mitchell
Los Angeles Kings RPF - Alec Martinez, Marian Gaborik, Tanner Pearson, Tyler Toffoli
Mighty Ducks of Anaheim RPF - Paul Kariya, Teemu Selanne
Montreal Canadiens RPF - Carey Price, P. K. Subban
New York Islanders RPF - Anders Lee, John Tavares, Nick Leddy, Ryan Strome
New York Rangers RPF - Derek Stepan, J. T. Miller, Kevin Hayes, Ryan McDonagh
>b>Philadelphia Flyers RPF - Claude Giroux, Danny Briere, Sean Couturier, Shayne Gostisbehere, Wayne Simmonds
Pittsburgh Penguins RPF - Carl Hagelin, Jaromír Jágr, Marc-Andre Fleury, Mario Lemieux, Nick Bonino, Pascal Dupuis, Phil Kessel, Steve Downie
Washington Capitals RPF - Alexander Ovechkin, Alexander Semin, Braden Holtby, Evgeny Kuznetsov, John Carlson, Karl Alzner, Matt Niskanen, Nicklas Backstrom, T. J. Oshie
Women's Hockey RPF - Amanda Kessel, Caroline Ouellette, Cassie Campbell, Charline Labonte, Gillian Apps, Julie Chu, Kacey Bellamy, Marie-Philip Poulin, Meghan Duggan, Shannon Szabados

I'm not even sure she would hold up to a challenge. I'm also a little :/ at including Justin Courtnall under Dallas Stars because he plays for a fucking different team.

AYRT Yeah, I made that face too. I guess he's nominated as a buddy of the Benns and probably wouldn't hold up to a challenge either, but I don't know whether I can be bothered.

Ayrt

If Courtnall got challenged and then moved under his own team tag, I'd laugh.

I have trouble imagining the YT mods would care enough to bother.

ayrt

They wouldn't, which is why I would laugh in the hypothetical situation that happens and the outcry of 'wtf special treatment RPF' wank that would have even-odds to occurs. I enjoy watching things burn sometimes.

Apparently somebody's decided to throw down over Megan Mitchell getting in under the Panthers, tho, so I guess we'll see!

That sounds like someone deliberately being a dick to me.

Quick! Mention this also applies to the Stars tags.

There's already a challenge in over Courtnall, but nobody's mentioned Katie, but I think she counts as more of a public figure than Megan, so...

Him being moved to the Sharks tags is hilarious if it happens. But he got traded, so man, I cannot see how this shakes out.

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