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Re: Fandom Venting

From: (Anonymous)
I think people meant because of how many out female hockey players there are, which in turn is a consequence of how different male and female sports cultures are. You really can't use the overall gender split to figure out how one subculture within each gender will behave, though. That's...not how statistics work.

Re: Fandom Venting

From: (Anonymous)
AYRT

*head desk* No, I can't use overall patterns to predict how other subsets will behave. NOR WAS I CLAIMING THAT. I wouldn't even use it to make claims about hockey people in general because the stat is specific to the US. I was just mentioning it as an example of women not being as different from men, and people in general being far more homophobic than people realize a lot of the day. That's a rather unique misreading. Sorry, if this isn't you, but are you the person upthread that's claiming that someone demanded sociological proof that hockey players are more conservative than other groups? Because that sounds like a similar misrepresentation (misunderstanding?) about the conversation that people don't have to believe that all hockey players are voting for Trump.

Anyway, the comment I to here was not clear to me who they were referring to, I guess. I thought they meant that women who comment in hockey fandom were more LGBT-friendly than men who do. If they meant pro players, I think the fact that you've got semi-out female players and not even retired male ones who are semi-out speaks for itself. There have been out retired players in other North American sports like football for over 40 years now.

Re: Fandom Venting

From: (Anonymous)
AYRT

I wasn't that anon, but it seems like you're carrying over a grudge from that previous conversation about Trump (which I did not participate in). By your own admission, you're the one who misunderstood what people were talking to. Maybe getting so ott about it isn't the best way to move forward from that point.

Re: Fandom Venting

From: (Anonymous)
AYRT

I misunderstood who people were talking about, not what. Even if I had been talking about the same group of people, there was nothing about trying to figure out how specific people would behave like you wrote. So, yes, I misunderstood one thing, but I still think you were misreading my comment independent of that.

I don't know what's so OTT about bringing up a possible similar misunderstanding. Like I said, sorry, if it isn't you.

Re: Fandom Venting

From: (Anonymous)
da

I honestly don't know how you'd think that we were talking about women in hockey fandom. The OP's comment was entirely about players and the pro community.

I think the fact that you've got semi-out female players and not even retired male ones who are semi-out speaks for itself.

No kidding!

Re: Fandom Venting

From: (Anonymous)
AYRT

It's not a big mystery; I misread this sentence: Fandom's having fun tearing into Torts because they already hated him anyways, but others aren't better, and the women aren't any better than the men.

Re: Fandom Venting

From: (Anonymous)
someone demanded sociological proof that hockey players are more conservative than other groups? Because that sounds like a similar misrepresentation (misunderstanding?) about the conversation that people don't have to believe that all hockey players are voting for Trump.

Someone literally did demand that, separately from other people raising valid points about why hockey players wouldn't be voting for Trump (not planning to vote, conservative =/= Trumps-supporting -- all valid points). But one person absolutely did argue that they didn't agree that most players would be Trump voters (ok) by mentioning polls of white, college-educated US men not supporting Trump and not being homophobic (absolutely irrelevant to that first opinion in a logically flawed way). When someone mentioned the sociological factors that likely would make the hockey demographic skew more conservatively than the general population, they demanded "sociological proof" to counter their "statistical evidence." You're the one misrepresenting the conversation.