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Re: Game day thread 21 Sept 2016
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From: (Anonymous)https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/778722253957586944
What a smart guy their coach is, huh.
Re: Game day thread 21 Sept 2016
From: (Anonymous)Watching it I thought they must have known because that last shift was pretty frantic before the OT like they were really pushing to get the regulation win but didn't want to risk the empty netter against. Guess not.
Re: Game day thread 21 Sept 2016
From: (Anonymous)Even not wanting to risk the empty netter was pretty dumb in this situation, if they really were aware of how the tiebreak worked. They had almost nothing to lose by pulling the goalie, because the difference between an OT win and a regulation loss for them was needing Finland to win versus needing Finland to win in regulation. Whereas the difference between a regulation win and OT win was a clinch versus a likely elimination. I'd guess the coaching staff knew they hadn't advanced (how could they not, the league PR even tweeted clinching scenarios), but didn't fully understand the ramifications of the tiebreak scenario.
Re: Game day thread 21 Sept 2016
From: (Anonymous)Or I could be given McLellan and co. too much credit, since I've just seen that Gaudreau didn't know either. Wow.
Re: Game day thread 21 Sept 2016
From: (Anonymous)Yeah I guess it still would have been a poor choice if it was on purpose, but it didn't seem generally crazy of a situation to me because of that conservative coaching mentality some have. Or at least it's the kind of bad decisions I expect sometimes.
Just plain not knowing is negligent. A shame if that robs us of a chance to watch this team again.
Re: Game day thread 21 Sept 2016
From: (Anonymous)Yeah. I mean, I think not pulling the goalie on purpose would also have been plain negligent, because it's a bad decision the coach could only make if he didn't really understand what needed to happen for them to advance in all situations. Being conservative is one thing, being conservative when there's nothing to conserve is another. But you're right, plain not knowing all together is a whole different level of stupid.
Re: Game day thread 21 Sept 2016
From: (Anonymous)Yeah, not pulling the goalie on purpose IS crazy in this situation because you play conservatively to get to OT to ensure you get at least the loser point, right? But the one loser point here would have been literally worthless to NA, because they would have needed Finland to win in regulation regardless, because of Russia holding the tiebreak.
(The only difference the loser point would have made was guaranteeing Finland's mathematical elimination, because otherwise Finland could have advanced if NA lost in regulation and Finland beat Russian by... 7 goals. Hmm.)
Re: Game day thread 21 Sept 2016
From: (Anonymous)I'm a little confused as to how winning in regulation would help NA more than winning in OT. The tiebreaker is head to head, not regulation wins, so I can't see how it matters.
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From: (Anonymous)Yeah, I've been confused about group B, but the coaches should have the resources or knowledge or SOMETHING to be able to figure it out. NHL PR posted a tweet which clearly says "in regulation"!! https://twitter.com/PR_NHL/status/778604788640546816
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From: (Anonymous)Regulation loss - Finland win in regulation but not a major (like, seriously major) blowout
OT/SO loss - Finland win in regulation with any score
OT win - Finland win of any kind
Regulation win - Any outcome but Russia winning in regulation and catching up in goal differential
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From: (Anonymous)No, if they'd won in regulation, they would have clinched! Because it was the last game for both NA and Sweden, they both would have 4 points, but NA would have better goal diff. So if it were a three way tie, Sweden would automatically be behind NA, and it would just depend on where Russia was. If NA had scored with the extra attacker, they would have clinched, and Russia would have needed to beat Finland by 3 goals in order to get in over Sweden (Sweden's goal diff is 2, Russia's right now is 0, Sweden has the head-to-head), and by 4 goals to take first place over NA.
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From: (Anonymous)Me too, crap. This team certainly has a way of making you care about them.
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From: (Anonymous)Yikes. That's a shame for them if they get eliminated because of this, which is fairly likely. With such an offensively talented team and Sweden already advanced, they probably would have had a real good chance at the regulation with with the extra attacker.
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