dekedangle_rpfanon | #29 – Lay, Lie, or Laine?

#29 – Lay, Lie, or Laine?

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DA

So you're saying it's not that the Leafs are playing well, it's just that the Caps are playing badly? Really? It doesn't hurt to give the other team some credit - especially a team that just won a game in double-OT with 5 D.

*leans in real close to the mic*

That is exactly what I am saying, and yes, it would hurt me deeply to say anything nice about that other team.

+1

I understand the fans on Tumblr are super obnoxious (which is why I don't go there) but you all are making it sound like they aren't allowed to be happy about anything. Everyone thought they were massive underdogs going in, of course they're going to be thrilled not to be steamrollered by the number one team.

I feel like you're overestimating the amount of goodwill that can be expected during playoffs.

ayrt

Eh, maybe. I still think there's a difference between "fuck the [insert team]!" and complaining about another fanbase's "smugness" in the most condescending way possible when you're the huge favorite and they're just happy it's even a competition.

Look, speaking as a Yankees fan: it's like when the Yankees are underdogs. It still doesn't count.

No one's saying you can't hate him, it's just "how dare their awful fans be happy that we're not crushing them like a bug like everyone expected" seems neither sympathetic nor self-aware.

Leafs fans... not smug... just happy to be in competition... doesn't add up.

AYRT

Right? What fanbase is going to look at a series they are unexpectedly competitive in and say, "Wow, our opponents sure are playing badly, lucky us!"

And besides, this idea that the Caps are the only team on the ice whose performance affects the result is kind of obnoxious. There's always two teams in a game.

DA

The main problem is that non-Leafs fans tend to be sick and tired of hearing abou the Leafs by December. Them doing well in the playoffs is basically the worse case scenario for those of us who would really like hockey media to talk about somebody fucking else once in awhile.

They might be a plucky underdog story, but they're the kind of plucky underdog character that viewers want to strangle just to make them shut the fuck up.

DA

I hope you're not saying the people giving pushback in this thread are Leafs fans? I'm not. I also haven't heard about them that much, tbh - I've seen way more complaining about Leafs fans on deke than I've seen or heard actual Leaf discussion anywhere else. Maybe it depends on what market you're in? And also who you follow on Tumblr, obviously.

Well, yes, you can probably assume the people complaining are seeing more of it than you, and are letting off steam in a different space to avoid the hive.

ayrt

I mean, I get it! I agree! I was honestly hoping they'd lose out and just miss the playoffs. No one's obligated to like them just because they're the underdog, I just think it seems a bit much to act like it's so offensive of them to be happy, when if you're a Caps fan, your team is still so much more likely to win the series. Idk it seems un-self aware and mean in a punching-down way to me, but I'm not going to die on a hill about this defending Tumblr's Leafs fans lol.

But what if you just have a longstanding hate for everything about the Leafs, and the Caps just happen to be the current enemy of your enemy? Is the "bitch eating crackers" judgment allowed then?

Could it be that judging other fans for being excited about their team is misplaced in all situations, regardless of your personal team affiliation? Surely not.

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ayrt

I had to look up what "bitch eating crackers" meant and nonnie, I'm laughing!!! I mean, obviously an essential part of sports fandom that you have fun irrationally hating the teams you hate, I just didn't think some of the remarks made came off quite like that, but whatever, maybe if I spent more on hockey Tumblr I'd feel the same.

ayrt

I'm not a Caps fan. I'm not even a fan of an eastern team.

ayrt

It was meant as a general "you," not you specifically, since you marked yourself as a DA responding to my first comment. Sorry that wasn't clearer. I was just responding to your reasoning about your feelings with my own, I wasn't trying to accuse you of any sort of ~bad behavior.

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NA

Part of it is that the most annoying Leafs fans I know, on tumblr and IRL, are the ones who just started being Leafs fans within the last year or so. The ones who picked up the Leafs when they got cute and young and successful.

I don't want to be that anti-bandwagon, anti-new fans, anti-multi-team-fans grump but it's ten times worse coming from people who haven't earned the right to be that smug and obnoxious about the team's success.

I feel there's a certain degree of irony here, given how many new fandom people have latched onto the Caps in the last year or so.

AYRT

I'm not a Caps fan.

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Enthusiastically agreed.

DA

Eh, the Caps influx has been happening for awhile now, and the new fans have had time to acclimate. I'm sure Baby's First Season Caring About the Caps was tedious for a fair amount of people, too. The newest fans of any given team get there eventually, but if you stick out as a very loud and very new voice, it's not like people aren't going to notice.

I was wondering earlier what brought fandom to the capitals recently. They're pretty lacking in the things that would normally do it (long playoff runs, bromances, young very attractive players, etc)

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