dekedangle_rpfanon | #29 – Lay, Lie, or Laine?

#29 – Lay, Lie, or Laine?

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GM comment rather than coaching like the title suggests, but I wonder if Bergevin is safe especially with some big deals needing to be signed in the next couple of offseasons.

If he stay Galchenyuk will be gone.

From your lips to God's ear nonnie.

DA

God I hope so. That poor kid is wasting his best years playing for people who seem to think he's a fourth-liner.

I'm pretty sure this is not a business-side possibility, but as a Preds fan who thinks Galchenyuk is getting woefully misused professionally and was also screwed over personally by the Habs org and the Montreal media, I would *adore* seeing him as their 2C. (And hopefully getting some PK celly hugs and such. I don't seriously ship them *romantically*, but PK hugs/smiles make everything better imo.)

AYRT

I would be ok with this, although the Preds are not my team. (I am always down for PK happiness.) I really just want Galchenyuk to play on any team that won't make him look like a sad bear all the time. The Habs have stomped the fun outta that kid.

Yeah I don't really think the Preds have assets for anyone like this but I'd take him if possible. (My biggest delusions are about getting Tavares though.)

I saw people on Twitter speculating on whether Price will want to re-sign, and ho boy would that be a story if he didn't.

It would be a story anyway. There will probably be speculations linking him to Toronto (as it happens with all the high-profile UFAs), so that last summer when he should sign his extension is gonna be rad. That would be next year, right, and UFA in 2 years? Or am I remembering it wrong?

I might actually hate them.

"Marc Bergevin says Galchenyuk's short term future will be playing wing"

https://twitter.com/tonymarinaro/status/856600463826984961

Oh. Holy shit.

"Bergevin on Galchenyuk "Hopefully he took a step back this year to take two forward next year." #TSN690"

I hope they trade him and he absolutely lights them up every year forever.

That comment seems so callous and mean, Jesus. Maybe reflect on your own shitty methods for a second.

I mean, his PPG were better than last year, but whatever, I guess.

SA

...And with PPG I mean points per game, not powerplay goals.

Re: Coaching Corral

(Anonymous) - 2017-04-24 20:56 (UTC) - Expand

DA

Galchenyuk is up for a new contract this off-season, so Bergevin is chumming the waters, trying to make sure he doesn't have to pay Chucky what he's worth. He did the same thing when PK Subban's bridge deal was up, i.e. PK got a bridge contract, won the Norris, Bergevin talked shit about him to the media all day every day pre-negotiation, and the owner had to step in to get the deal done at all (and they ended up paying PK 9 million a year). Unfortunately Chucky isn't coming off a career year so Bergevin's bullshit 'negotiation' tactics might actually work this time

I hate this man so much. So, so, so fucking much.

On the happier side, Weber had some really nice things to say about Galchenyuk in his exit interview. https://twitter.com/EricEngels/status/856566190575058945

I hope it backfires - the deal doesn't get done and Bergevin and co end up trading him, getting bad returns because they spent so long shit talking him. Unlikely, but a fan can dream.

+ 1 to getting traded and lighting them up EVERY FUCKING TIME from here to the end of his hopefully much more successful/happier career somewhere else.

Also I just have so much hate for Bergevin overall that I'm getting EXTRA (levels of Schadenfreude about PK moving on as part of a sweep and the Habs going out in the first round.)

I've never followed the Habs, why is Bergevin so disliked?

arguably throwing galchenyuk under the bus for being a DV survivor, the PK trade in general and iirc tryng to lowball him on a bridge deal, probably signing shaw both for SJ reasons and because dude is not worth 6x6 on the business side....

i'm sure there's plenty more, but that's what comes to mind immediately. other nonnies feel free to pile on the Bergevin hate plz?

Re: Coaching Corral

(Anonymous) - 2017-04-25 23:52 (UTC) - Expand

Re: Coaching Corral

(Anonymous) - 2017-04-26 02:33 (UTC) - Expand

Partially it's stuff like jerking Subban and Galchenyuk around. (See the stuff about him talking shit about them to lower their value, plus how the owner had to literally step in in PK's case.) Partially it's impatience and frustration that he took so long to get rid of Therrien - there was a real feeling that that was cronyism, putting his friend's better interests ahead of the team's. It's probably a lot of other things too but I bailed on following the Habs when things started getting weird and not-fun.

He's quite obviously stuck in the past in terms of how a team should be built, loves to trash his own players to try and excuse the fact that he doesn't know how to develop prospects, is wasting Carey Price, told the media he wanted to emulate the "Chicago culture" in MTL...

I think also he tends to make "bold moves" to try and shake things up and make a big impact but they almost never work out, so he ends up looking like both a cutthroat, emotionless GM and an incompetent. Poor habs fans.

Re: Coaching Corral

(Anonymous) - 2017-04-25 17:23 (UTC) - Expand

DA

Bergevin-hating anon is late to this party, but whatever, I'm going to vent anyway. You did ask!

A lot of his recent bullshit has been documented, but aside from all that he's just not a good GM. All of the Habs' core players - Pacioretty, Price, Markov, Subban, even Gallagher - are from before his tenure. And since, he's acquired...well. Galchenyuk, sort of (MB became GM about a month before the 2012 draft). Mike McCarron? De la Rose? Hudon? So he's not great at drafting. He's not great at developing players - I don't want to write a novel, but very few of his prospects pan out, and I don't follow the Ice Caps, but I hear that they are not great. (Other people are involved here, tbf, but he's the dude in charge and he refuses to change the people in charge of the system despite it being not great.)

He's talked a big game about building the Habs into a contender, and yet it's patently clear that this team is one good goaltender and...yeah. We have a great goaltender. It's his job to make sure we have more than just a great goaltender, and that isn't the case. (I mean, the Rangers have a great goaltender too, and they also have people who can score goals, something the Habs are sorely lacking. And look how well that turned out!)

Ugh. I hope he gets fired.

Loved Lozo's comment lol. But seriously, I feel like he's gonna get traded and not in the best deal. During the draft maybe.

There is, I think, potential for him to go to Colorado, Duchene is still on the market, and it's got potential to be a good change of scene for both of them. But it would depend on the pieces from both side, and if there are better offers.

But I would never wish Colorado on a player I liked. :(