dekedangle_rpfanon | #24 – Not Sure If Serious or Playing Dumba

#24 – Not Sure If Serious or Playing Dumba

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Yeah, the NHL is fine. It's comparatively unpopular to other major sports and doesn't do itself many favors in marketing, but last I heard it was still growing as a whole.

Speaking of Jevpalovs, he tied the game up!

This isn't so much about the specific players as the scenario, but the Edmonton situation kind of fascinates me in an idfic way. It's a bunch of young, super high-ceiling players without much development or veteran leadership, much less a consistent coaching presence, kind of left to their own devices. You could take that in so many directions, serious or with bonus angsty tentacles or whatever.

Or like I came across McLellen "trying to create 'chemistry' pretty much the whole season." The comment was about line combos, but again, you could take that a lot of places. What lengths is the org going to turn their hot mess of dysfunction into a team?

I'm a huge fan of the Pens but I think their playoff run may doom the NHL and lead to the extinction of the sport. Perhaps we should run a Kickstarter to hire an assassin? Is that excessive? Am I taking this too seriously?

Wait, assassinate WHO? D:

I don't want to specify because of the Pens intern reading the meme.

The NHL is just a very homer league. For the average fan once their personal team is out they stop watching and honestly I'm guilty of that myself this year too. No Chicago, NY, Boston means ratings will be lower as those markets aren't watching. I don't think it's really cause for concern especially when it is partially a result of that strong emotional investment (like hating a team too much to watch them potentially win).

da

I would be watching any other SCF match-up, but I just don't want to watch the Pens any more than I have to (i.e., when they're playing my team), and clearly my hatred only fuels the teams I dislike. I'm not going to stand between Thornton and his Cup. But I doubt Pens-haters all happen to have Nielsen boxes.

Aren't Nielsen boxes supposed to be a representative sample? The point isn't whether or not all Pens haters have Nielsen boxes.

They're supposed to be, but they're really not.

Honestly, these days the entire Nielsen system is kind of broken. It just doesn't work very well when a lot of people are streaming things, time-shifting things, etc.

That's why "old people" shows like the 80th season of NCIS do so well - because the Nielsens are, for the most part, still accurate for those over the age of 50. Just not so much for anyone below that.

na

Yep. I don't have a cable subscription, and I know quite a few other people around my age who are the same way.

If you don't have a Nielsen box, you don't count for TV ratings. That's all I meant. If Nielsen boxes were only distributed to people who hate the Pens enough to avoid watching them in the SCF, then the theory that ratings are down because people find the Pens annoying might hold water. But that seems unlikely.

I think Nielsen at least for TV is also taking into account the more popular streaming options now, but I have to think that for sports and how much unofficial streaming goes on, it's a lot harder to measure the changes. On the other hand, I hear a lot from people who have cable just to watch sports, so maybe it's not as inaccurate as it may be to only measure TV audiences for sports.

For the SCF so far at least, the first game went up against a much more watched NBA playoff game. The second one was on NBCSN, which is apparently only part of the more expensive cable packages. Those things surely didn't help.

I don't remember any details, but I think Nielsen has a metric for Twitter activity right now. And obviously if you watch on something like the nbcsportslive website, they can see who watched, how long they watched, etc.

I get being annoyed with the Pens in the final, because any right-thinking person should be, but this is a pretty dumb comment. The NHL loves the Pens making it this far; their only real beef is probably that the Pens' opponent isn't the Hawks or Kings; the problem isn't so much that the Sharks aren't as exciting as that the NBA is a bigger deal and there's an unfortunate market split that was never going to go the NHL's way; and the NHL will be fine, as evidenced by decades of absolutely terrible decisions that haven't screwed them yet.

They can and use it for their internal metrics, but it doesn't actually count for ratings. I mean, I'm sure playstation knows that I've been watching a lot of hockey, because I got Vue just for NBCSN. That doesn't mean that my views actually count in officially released viewer numbers.

Really did not want to make a GDT to make this comment: WTF Nailers fans? Why are you throwing toilet paper on the Americans? Not cool.

Also Stevenson did color commentary on the radio today because he couldn't play, and I swear his voice is still breaking. It was cool, though.

/Allen nonny

Did Islanders nonny move to Texas?

da

yeah, I think hard core sports fans tend to overestimate how much impact they have on ratings and marketing. That sort of thing is built on the casual fan.

Lots of people identify themselves that way here. Have you been away a long time or something?

I'd always seen Preds nonnies complaining about the Sad Shea Weber thing, and I kind of accepted it as a trope without noticing it much, but I just read that new Suter/Parise fic and I get it now. 1900 plotless meandering words about Shea Weber being sad about Ryan, without even a light at the end of the tunnel! Nothing!

I'm so sorry, Preds nonnies.

ayrt

Where it helps is with the 18-35 age group shows. That's who advertisers want, and their favorite shows will almost never look good on Nielsen. So now there's another thing networks can use to sell things that couldn't air on CBS.

lmao, no they don't? not unless it's some wank where team alliance is relevant.

How's it going, nonnies who signed up? I finally found a plot idea I can write, just in the nick of time.

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