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Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)Meh, what's a quick rebuild? Has any team successfully done that? Maybe the Lightning could count? I don't think a quick rebuild is realistic for any team regardless of what contracts they have.
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)I'm not trying to make it sound like a quick painless process. But all things being equal, teams go 30 years without a cup, and unless they are the St. Louis Blues are only contending about half or so of the time. That's not some horrible misstep; that's average. It's hard to see Chicago as particularly interesting in some way when a lot of the teams whose window is also closing don't even have those cups.
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)depends on how you define a rebuild. The Pens have changed their entire roster except iirc seven players in two years.
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)yeah, I'd say as soon as they don't make the playoffs (which I think will happen pre-2030) people will get real mad. That's the "problem" winning teams have-their fans come to always expect that level of success and as soon as it falls off the rage sets in.
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)I don't think it counts as a rebuild if you've still got the same core, which the Pens do.
Re: Fandom Venting
From: (Anonymous)Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)Was going to say this -- also, as recently as the end of the 14-15 season, the Pens were getting fucked over by the cap and people said their window had closed. Also the Flyers -- obviously not the same level of success, but they made the SCF as recently as 2010. They've turned over pretty much their entire roster except Giroux since then. This year was supposed to be a rebuild year for them, but they still made the playoffs (and came in as a better team than the Hawks according to most analytics).
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)I would not count the Pens. Your team generational talent can't be the same person(s) both before and after a rebuild and you can't make the playoffs every year of a rebuild either. That's just a new GM.
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)I mean, the Blackhawks still very much have the same core. It just remains to see what they'll be able to do with them with the state of their contracts.
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)Complete tear down rebuilds aren't the only way to go. If they win another Cup seven years from now, they'll probably still have Kane, Toews& Keith still on the roster but everything else will have changed. Edmonton is not the only model.
Re: World Cup of Hockey
From: (Anonymous)Re: World Cup of Hockey
From: (Anonymous)I was kinda annoyed with Canada using it as their goal song, but it's strangely perfect for Team NA.
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)Re: World Cup of Hockey
From: (Anonymous)If we think of goal songs, the silly suggestions suddenly seem more realistic. The Final Countdown for Team Europe would actually be something I enjoy, lol.
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)Vancouver could do that with the Sedins, and still be contending, but they haven't been so great at it the last two years, and probably will be forced into a rebuild.
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)Re: Fandom Venting
From: (Anonymous)Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)That's Vancouver's entire problem, that they don't seem to know whether they are rebuilding or contending. They are obviously in no condition to contend, but haven't been making moves necessary to rebuild. That's what people foresee for the Blackhawks, although less out of ineptitude and more out of being forced into that position by the contracts they've given out (many of which have already paid rewards that make whatever consequences that follow more than worth it).
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)Re: World Cup of Hockey
From: (Anonymous)Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)There's some skepticism about the ability to truly rebuild with the Sedins still around, because no one will ever take both of those contracts. But I think it can be done. If they strip off junk like Sutter's contract, Sbisa's atrocity, let Hamhuis/Vrbata walk, and let the kids play over overpaid jackasses like Dorsett among other moves, they can rebuild with the Sedins there to mentor the youngsters.
Of course, they have to stop trading away the youngster for older, worse youngsters too. But Benning.
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)The way I use "rebuild" (and see it used very often) is when a team is making moves to make a team better in the long run instead of making moves that will help them win games now, which obviously happens through some level of roster turnover. But either way, the point still stands -- you said the Hawks will just rebuild once they're crappy, but the crappiness has already started to set in, and they still have their generational talent and core signed to mammoth contracts. No matter what any haters say, I'm sure any fans would take being in that position if it meant three cups in six years. But while some of the Hawks' moves that are hurting them now were very obviously a worthwhile trade off for those cups (Keith, Hossa contracts), other ones seem like they are trapping the Hawks in a no man's land where they can't contend or rebuild (Toews, Kane contracts), foolish mistakes that they especially can't afford in that position (Scuderi trade), or unforeseen longterm costs of earlier moves (losing Saad and Teravainen).
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)Yeah, Vancouver is prime evidence that rebuilding =/= being bad and reaping the rewards of high draft picks. They are obviously bad but no one thinks they're rebuilding. Having the Sedins' contracts together is tough if they want to go full rebuild, but they could and should have a much better team around them than they do.
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)