dekedangle_rpfanon | #24 – Not Sure If Serious or Playing Dumba

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I haven't seen the "we made you great" narrative. The "we made you a Stanley Cup champion", yes, because that's not about being great, that's about being on the right team at the right time.

Kessel got a lot of shit in Toronto and elsewhere. It was implied he was locker room poison, that he dragged down teams he was on, that he didn't care about winning. Hell, he didn't even make the World Cup roster despite being top US scorer at Sochi. It's really nice that the year after he gets out of Toronto, he's a champion, and it makes me happy to see him being appreciated by team, fans and Pitt media. (I'll allow that the Toronto team never seemed to not appreciate Phil, professionally and personally.)

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I do kinda side-eye the Pittsburgh media for their self-congratulatory tone now considering they also bashed Kessel quite a bit during the season when he was snakebitten. (Looking at you, Super Genius.)

God - totally off topic but I'm tempted to start an entire venting thread about ye Olde Super Genius because I have ~opinions that I am not comfortable sharing in namespace because his herd of toxic defenders will ride in and be just as gross as is humanly possible.

He's so transparent in playing favorites (aka the guys that are willing to go on his show) and sooooo petty.

I thought I knew all the major Pens opinionators, but I have no idea who this is. Help a nonnie out?

It's Mark Madden.

ayrt

Oh, well, that explains everything. UGH.

ayrt

I enjoy seeing him appreciated, too. That's different from calling him a reclamation project or comparing him to a dog. Kessel having gotten a lot of undeserved shit doesn't mean that no one knew he was a good player, and it doesn't justify being condescending about him. If you haven't seen people making those remarks, that's fine. It's obviously not you or your point of view I'm venting about, although it is even a little diminishing to say "we made you a cup champion" when the whole reason the Pens traded for him was because they thought he would help make them cup champions, not to benevolently give an opportunity to a guy they felt bad for.

AYRT

I guess that's fair enough. He was never a reclamation project like, say, Daley (And I love Daley, but his Chi numbers were terrible - he went from an afterthought to a top pairing guy.) And I agree the abused dog stuff is nonsense.

Well, we made him a Cup champion, he made us a Cup team. Definitely it wasn't an act of charity!

One minute Daley is a reclamation project, the next he was a deal that totally fleeced Chicago. Pens fans need to make up their damn mind.

Opinions may vary within fanbases? I remember a Pens fan saying they thought GMJR would lose his job over the trade at the time. Others were over the moon.

It's inarguable he's done far better in Pittsburgh than he did in Chicago, whether that's system, coaching, or just a coincidence of luck.

He was a deal that totally fleeced Chicago because they had to dress one of the worst players in the league as a result of the trade, and he was a reclamation project. Dealing Scuderi for a pile of cat vomit would have been a deal that fleeced Chicago; instead we got a nice reclamation project. :)

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I honestly just hate hearing any player (or even any person tbh) referred to as a "reclamation project." It grinds my gears more with Kessel because Kessel was always a great player, arguably the Pens' best player in the playoffs and also because of the accompanying baggage of fat jokes/other things being discussed in the thread. But the Pens didn't trade for Daley in order to make him their "reclamation project," either. They identified a player with value that wasn't being put to use, one whose strengths (which were familiar to a lot of people, although not necessarily Chicago fans) would suit the Pens' needs. It's smart GM-ing.

"They identified a player with value that wasn't being put to use"

I think that's exactly what people mean when they say he was a reclamation project, though.

ayrt

I realize what they mean, it's the connotations of the term I don't like.

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