dekedangle_rpfanon | #24 – Not Sure If Serious or Playing Dumba

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Not sure sure if this belong in a vent.

I general enjoy watching hockey, doesn't matter who's playing, but I've been very annoyed at seeing the Pens in the final. Leading me to not watch much of the SCF. To see the rating makes me wonder if people share the same views. Or NHL is bad at marketing itself.

Also, Sharks aren't an exciting teams compare to their NBA counterparts.

Which as a fan of hockey this makes me worry about the future of this sport.

Eh, I think the low ratings are because the NHL is bad at marketing itself, PIT and SJ aren't big market teams, and yeah, they have to compete with the NBA finals with two teams and two stars that'll draw a lot of casual watchers, besides the fact that basketball is just a more popular sport in the US.

That said, I highly doubt the low ratings have anything to do with the fact that people find the Pens annoying. I think both the Pens and Sharks are great teams to watch for casual or new fans, and this is a great matchup in that regard.

Yeah, the NHL is fine. It's comparatively unpopular to other major sports and doesn't do itself many favors in marketing, but last I heard it was still growing as a whole.

I'm a huge fan of the Pens but I think their playoff run may doom the NHL and lead to the extinction of the sport. Perhaps we should run a Kickstarter to hire an assassin? Is that excessive? Am I taking this too seriously?

Wait, assassinate WHO? D:

I don't want to specify because of the Pens intern reading the meme.

The NHL is just a very homer league. For the average fan once their personal team is out they stop watching and honestly I'm guilty of that myself this year too. No Chicago, NY, Boston means ratings will be lower as those markets aren't watching. I don't think it's really cause for concern especially when it is partially a result of that strong emotional investment (like hating a team too much to watch them potentially win).

It hasn't helped since the beginning of the playoffs that there's been no Canadian teams either. Canadian viewership was down 61% for the FIRST round. I can imagine it's only gone down since.

That's a large chunk of the NHL's viewership gone, right there.

I really hope that will put to bed some of the idea that Canadians are such a good hockey market they'll watch anything, especially when used against American cities for being "bad."

da

I would be watching any other SCF match-up, but I just don't want to watch the Pens any more than I have to (i.e., when they're playing my team), and clearly my hatred only fuels the teams I dislike. I'm not going to stand between Thornton and his Cup. But I doubt Pens-haters all happen to have Nielsen boxes.

Aren't Nielsen boxes supposed to be a representative sample? The point isn't whether or not all Pens haters have Nielsen boxes.

They're supposed to be, but they're really not.

Honestly, these days the entire Nielsen system is kind of broken. It just doesn't work very well when a lot of people are streaming things, time-shifting things, etc.

That's why "old people" shows like the 80th season of NCIS do so well - because the Nielsens are, for the most part, still accurate for those over the age of 50. Just not so much for anyone below that.

na

Yep. I don't have a cable subscription, and I know quite a few other people around my age who are the same way.

I think Nielsen at least for TV is also taking into account the more popular streaming options now, but I have to think that for sports and how much unofficial streaming goes on, it's a lot harder to measure the changes. On the other hand, I hear a lot from people who have cable just to watch sports, so maybe it's not as inaccurate as it may be to only measure TV audiences for sports.

For the SCF so far at least, the first game went up against a much more watched NBA playoff game. The second one was on NBCSN, which is apparently only part of the more expensive cable packages. Those things surely didn't help.

I don't remember any details, but I think Nielsen has a metric for Twitter activity right now. And obviously if you watch on something like the nbcsportslive website, they can see who watched, how long they watched, etc.

They can and use it for their internal metrics, but it doesn't actually count for ratings. I mean, I'm sure playstation knows that I've been watching a lot of hockey, because I got Vue just for NBCSN. That doesn't mean that my views actually count in officially released viewer numbers.

ayrt

Where it helps is with the 18-35 age group shows. That's who advertisers want, and their favorite shows will almost never look good on Nielsen. So now there's another thing networks can use to sell things that couldn't air on CBS.

If you don't have a Nielsen box, you don't count for TV ratings. That's all I meant. If Nielsen boxes were only distributed to people who hate the Pens enough to avoid watching them in the SCF, then the theory that ratings are down because people find the Pens annoying might hold water. But that seems unlikely.

da

yeah, I think hard core sports fans tend to overestimate how much impact they have on ratings and marketing. That sort of thing is built on the casual fan.

I get being annoyed with the Pens in the final, because any right-thinking person should be, but this is a pretty dumb comment. The NHL loves the Pens making it this far; their only real beef is probably that the Pens' opponent isn't the Hawks or Kings; the problem isn't so much that the Sharks aren't as exciting as that the NBA is a bigger deal and there's an unfortunate market split that was never going to go the NHL's way; and the NHL will be fine, as evidenced by decades of absolutely terrible decisions that haven't screwed them yet.

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