#24 – Not Sure If Serious or Playing Dumba

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Re: Game Day Thread, June 6, 2016

[(Anonymous)]

It's hard to evaluate because obviously how they're playing (or seem to be playing) is also a product of how the other team is playing. The Penguins are a good team (and a lot of analytics predicted would be the better team, and better than the previous opposition the Sharks faced), and are playing well. The Sharks also just don't seem to match up well against the Penguins. Another anon in the thread mentioned speed and forecheck and #analysis; for a specific analysis of how that comes into play, someone on reddit is doing a game-by-game break down of OZ entries which is really interesting and informative: https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/4mwy0a/post_game_thread_pittsburgh_penguins_at_san_jose/d3yzvua. Their conclusion after Game 4 was pretty much that the Pens' strategy is controlled entries, whereas the Sharks' strategy is dump and chase, which isn't working against the Pens because the Pens' speed allows them to mostly keep the puck to the perimeter.

Re: Game Day Thread, June 6, 2016

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks nonnie - this is super interesting.

/#analysis nonnie

Re: Game Day Thread, June 6, 2016

[(Anonymous)]

There's been a lot of discussion on my broadcast about how little space the Pens are giving Pavelski in particular - he wants to get those shots in close around the net, and he's always got a Penguin right there getting up in his space.

Another thing is that one of the Sharks' biggest threats in the postseason has been the power play, but a) they're getting very few power play opportunities (partly because they're not in enough control of the play to draw them and partly because lol SCF reffing), and b) the Pens use that same aggressive speed on the PK. Compound that with the zone entry problems you mention, and the PP is not getting a ton to work with - they're having a lot of trouble even getting set up.

In general, I think if a team that's been playing well suddenly mysterious stops playing well... it's probably because the other team is good and is shutting down things that the first team was used to getting away with. That other anon was a bit inflammatory, but I think the principle holds - remember that there's two teams playing, and your team isn't struggling in a vacuum. Give the other team some credit for showing up, too. (To be fair hockey media and analysis in general has a huge problem with the idea that it's not just about one team losing the game, it's about the other team winning the game.)

Re: Game Day Thread, June 6, 2016

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Yeah, that's a good point. Speed isn't just foot speed -- it's the speed of play. After Game 4, Pavelski said that they would try to set up plays like they were used to, but by the team they'd try to pull the trigger, the puck would already be gone.

Re: Game Day Thread, June 6, 2016

[(Anonymous)]

sa

*by the TIME, not by the team