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Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)I parented up and reread and they pretty much said exactly that -- that if the Hawks' model isn't sustainable, they don't see why it matters because even if they come in last next year, they will start to rebuild. Whether you count a quick rebuild/rebuild on the fly as a rebuild, or only starting from scratch/getting rid of the core (I don't think the semantics of it really matters), the point is that it's going to be incredibly hard for the Blackhawks to do either of them for a long time.
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)You could actually read the thread in question. But ok, buddy.
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)Same to you!
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)Clearly your reading comprehension skills are strong.
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)A full on rebuild would be hard to pull of for the Hawks for years to come, what with all the NMCs, no? I don't know enough to make a judgement as to whether a kind of like this years Penguins re-tooling over a course of one season would be feasable.
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)The AIRT is correct.
I think your confusion is that you seem to be mistaking the idea that something is important or special or that it matters with being slow and dragged out? Which doesn't really have anything to do with what I was talking about. I'm not saying that the Hawks rebuild isn't a big deal, because I think it will be quick. I'm saying the Hawks rebuild isn't a big deal, because all teams do it and the Hawks at least have their cups. More recently than 30 years ago even.
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)Of course that was supposed to be that the AYRT is correct.
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)Then the confusion is that that's not a uniquely bad position. Rebuilds take time for all teams. If it wasn't one thing, it'd be another.
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)You said that IF the Hawks are bad and get the first overall pick, then they will start to rebuild. But you generally only get bad enough for the first overall pick if you are actively trying to rebuild (in a way the Blackhawks can't for the foreseeable future), or if you have made a disaster of not rebuilding and trying to be good (which will be costly and hurt the rebuild going forward). You don't have to think any of that is important in light of three cups, given how many fans would probably agree to never win again in exchange for that. But you seem to continue to think I'm saying something that I'm not, even after I repeatedly clarify. I'm not "confused" simply because I don't agree with your assessment of what will happen to the Blackhawks post-Cups. Plenty of fans know the experience of perpetual mediocrity that only hurts the team's future going forward, and that's what I think will happen to the Hawks, not Cups --> bad --> start a rebuild. Let's just amicably agree to disagree on that.
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)Look, if you're not arguing about the timing, then why are you putting Cups ---> bad --> rebuild in my mouth and saying you disagree with it when you could just as easily acknowledge mediocrity is often a stop on the way to bad?
Second, there's no such thing as *perpetual* mediocrity. No team goes eight years without either making the playoffs or falling down the standings.
My point is it doesn't matter. Whether they are terrible for the next 8 years or only sort of good or win another cup, eventually they will start rebuilding as all teams do, and unless it takes them more than 30 years, it won't be the least bit remarkable. The Hawks are not special snowflakes of handicappedness.
Re: What is <i>up</i> with your team? –– non-SCF edition
From: (Anonymous)I think you still haven't understood what my point is re: badness versus mediocrity and the Hawks' contract situation, which is maybe my own fault by this point. Maybe the issue is partly that we clearly understood different things by mediocrity. If perpetual mediocrity means eight consecutive years missing the playoffs (in a league where more than half the teams make it) but not falling down the standings, sure, no one does that. I was thinking also of fruitless and inevitable-feeling first-round exits, or like someone else commented, years of unmemorable mediocrity and a 12th to 16th overall first round pick. But we clearly aren't getting anywhere with this, so like I said, let's just agree to disagree.