dekedangle_rpfanon | #26 — Vanek! with a Jurco

#26 — Vanek! with a Jurco

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The organization still exists, and it still weirds me the fuck out.

AYRT - That sounds like a bad idea for a fic too.

How are you defining tinhatting? Because to me, someone actualfax thinking that the Bruins traded Seguin for being gay would be tinhatting. But just thinking random NHL players are possibly closeted gay people, including Seguin, isn't.

Not to mention namedropping aohatsu, which just makes the both of them look disingenuous and with very short memories.

DA

Maybe it's all subjective, but to me "I have chosen to interpret Seguin's behavior and actions in a way that is pretty contrary to reality in order to support my theory that he's gay" is tinhatting. The bending of reality in strange ways is the defining line.

Linsky, not Linksy.

If you're counting all of Seguin's douchebro-i-ness as something special snowflake-y in, I can see that as tinhatting. But if you're just talking about the one tweet, he was (unintentionally) calling himself gay too, because he was dumb and didn't pick up on the intendre, and I can see how it would be fun to assume he meant it in fic.

I've really liked her writing before, so I was excited to see she'd written something that wasn't K/T or Benncest, but I couldn't even finish this fic.

Twas a typo, pal.

Noobs.

I mean, all of those other fics were written a couple of years ago, some even nearly three years ago, now. People could legit not know they exist, if they haven't read back that far in the tag. Although, that doesn't really explain the author herself, who I know has been around awhile.

What did Tortorella do now?

But there's also the difference between writing fic and believing something is true. If the author had just written another "that tweet was actually Seguin drunkenly coming out" fic, I wouldn't call it tinhatting. The tinhatting part comes from the comments, where they seem to earnestly believe that is what happened in reality, or at least consider it highly likely.

He said that if one of his players didn't stand during the anthem, they weren't skating in that game.

DA

Existed, mostly.

But he said something to the effect of 'if anyone's planning on sitting out during the anthem, they can sit out for the entire length of the game too'.

I'm still honestly disappointed that people didn't end up shipping Kessel/Bonino & Hagelin/Daley. They just mashed the skill guy and the pretty guy together and called it a ship. Which is people's right, I'm still disappointed.

yeah, exactly. in a previous rpf fandom i was in people CONTINUALLY had to make posts stating they didn't actually believe x and y were fucking, they were just being hyperbolic, because otherwise the actual tinhatters thought they were part of their little club.

... this could actually apply to three of my former fandoms now that i think about it. people never change.

I just checked the Pew research for the US by gender, and they are, but not by much. 58 percent of women support gay rights versus 52 percent of men. My quick google only brought up the data from 2001 onward. The gap was at its widest in in that span in 2011 when 41 percent of men supported gay rights versus 51 percent of women.

To me there's a difference between believing that there are likely random NHL players who are likely closeted gay people and believing that a specific NHL player is definitely a closeted gay person. The first is just an assertion that there are likely closeted gay people in the NHL right now. This is not tinhatting, because you're just saying that, in this group of around 700 men, some of them are likely gay. The second is tinhatting, because you're insisting that this one, specific person is definitely gay.

I think people meant because of how many out female hockey players there are, which in turn is a consequence of how different male and female sports cultures are. You really can't use the overall gender split to figure out how one subculture within each gender will behave, though. That's...not how statistics work.

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Really believing something (anything) about the personal life of somebody you don't know personally, despite minimal evidence that it's true, or plenty of evidence which actually contradicts it, is tinhatting. "I think Seguin is gay" falls under that, "I think there are probably gay players in the NHL" does not. The second option is general enough that it's not making assumptions about the personal life of one player.

What a dumbass thing to say.

1) There's no chance any of his players were planning not to stand.
2) Hockey players don't rise for the national anthem. They are already standing out on the ice. At most, someone could choose to take a knee or bow their head and place their hands behind their back when the anthem starts.
3) If you force people to stand, then you render standing meaningless.

If you look at pictures and videos and whatnot, the whole line is pretty close. I don't think it was just the skilled and pretty one, even though that probably played a part. But Kessel and Hagelin seem pretty close in media.

(You might be sorry you asked)

Nathan MacKinnon is a pasty chef who makes the greatest cakes desserts, whatever, in the town. Tyson Barrie is a big fan of his desserts and visits every day. Nathan uses him as his tester to try the new ideas, but he stays in the kitchen and sends the experiments out with a waitress and gets feedback on them second hand.

Tyson stays his best customer, even when he starts working in a different restaurant. But then one day he is gone, Tyson goes to every place in the town which sells desserts, ice-cream or cake. But even though he enjoys many of the desserts they aren't the one he is looking for.

The one day he finds out that Sidney Crosby has hired Nate as his private dessert chef. Tyson becomes friends with Sid just so he can get an invite to dinner. Finally, here is the dessert he has been seeking and he goes to the kitchen to finally meet Nathan.

But it can still have a happy ending, Nathan can make desserts for two, and now Sid had company to eat desserts with.

2) If they're a goalie, they might be performing a jig through the anthem anyway. How would you even tell if they were protesting?

I find it kind of silly to have a bunch of Canadians, Swedes, Russians, etc. do anything for the U.S. anthem, anyway. I'd be okay just not playing the anthem before sporting events in general, though.

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