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Re: Fandom Venting

From: (Anonymous)
ayrt

They aren't less racist, which is what I was talking about.

Re: Fandom Venting

From: (Anonymous)
Yeah, like, I get why the original comment, the way it was phrased, would lead to someone to want to think about broader "social justice," but, like, unless Tortorella has been overtly anti-LGBT or something, it's pretty obvious what the remark about the women not being any better was referring to, specifically racism. And it's pretty fucking jarring to see someone venting their frustration about how hockey players and hockey culture, male and female alike, are deeply racist, and to see the first response is BUT THE WOMEN LGBT!!!

Re: Fandom Venting

From: (Anonymous)
sa

Also, to airt/OP -- re: then women, I assume you were referring to Kendall Coyne's twitter rant about Kaepernick? I think she also retweeted one of those gross "this vet without legs will stand for the anthem but you won't!1!" pictures, but I could be remembering wrong and that could be a different player.

Re: Fandom Venting

From: (Anonymous)
ayrt/OP

That was one of the things I was talking about, yes. But a bunch of other top, top US women also liked a bunch of similar tweets, too (which Twitter thought I "might like" because they did, ugh).

And ugh, I'm not saying people need to drop their favs over this or anything (like, I'm still following them, for now), but seeing people act like women's hockey is so Ideologically Pure (why should it be?) is frustrating. Someone I know tweeted about JT Brown's tweet, like "I'm excited but this is how awfully low my bar is for hockey dudes, I'm excited about a man being pro social justice, hockey dudes are terrible!!" and, like.... which of your white lady favs is doing better? The women have been terrible on this. Way to diminish the bravery of a player taking a stand. Not to make a bigger deal of a tweet than it is, but a black man publicly clapping back against a white coach's public remarks, implicitly calling Tortorella racist, when he knows very few players and coaches would agree with him, is not nothing and not proof of your "low bar," your bar is low because you and friends squee over Sidney Crosby saying "girls" instead of "guys" when that guy has never done a thing that would get him blowback, for a cause more important than himself.

(Ugh, sorry this became a rant. I thought I'd gotten it out with my vent, but I woke up to this shit on my TL and ugh...)

Re: Fandom Venting

From: (Anonymous)
I totally get you nonnie. I feel like certain women's hockey fans in this fandom think that liking women's hockey somehow absolves them from also being into men's hockey and all of its shit. But it's not like every woman who plays hockey is some kind of perfect social justice angel, they're just women who play professional hockey. That attitude that they're somehow ~better in terms of these things than their male counterparts is persistent though.

Re: Fandom Venting

From: (Anonymous)
> about the women not being any better was referring to, specifically racism

Before the ayrt clarified, I had no idea that they were referring to racism specifically. There was a fairly long thread about homophobia happening at the same time, which might be why the anon upthread pointed out that professional women hockey players tended to support LGBT issues, while professional men hockey players were less likely to do so.

Or maybe I'm just sheltered, and the racism was clearly inferred ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Fandom Venting

From: (Anonymous)
I thought it was pretty clear??? It doesn't say racism explicitly, but... but someone says they're upset about hockey's takes on Kaepernick, there's no need to generalize that? Maybe you are sheltered, maybe it's that fandom is usually more preoccupied with general "social justice" in a "your fave is problematic!" way that makes it seem natural to want to lump these issues together in conversation and to counter one way in which someone's ""bad"" with another way in which they're ""good."" Idk.

(But also, in retrospect, maybe it was clearer to me because I think I know what tweets OP was specifically referring to re: women players, which, if you didn't know about, also makes it more vague.)

Re: Fandom Venting

From: (Anonymous)
ayrt

Yeah, I hadn't seen the tweet you referred to, so I hadn't made the connection.

But you're also right. I tend to stay away from social media accounts with views I don't agree with, so it's probably confirmation bias on my part that I think everyone thinks like me.