#29 – Lay, Lie, or Laine?

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Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I stumbled on her twitter a while ago and it did manage to sour me on her, and I'm not even a Caps or Flyers fan. Way OTT for both her faves and her hates. She is a jerk/unlikeable IMO.

I'll still read her stuff though.

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

OTT is a good way to put it. I follow her because she's really good at talking about hockey, which is a bit rare on the RPF side of Pens fandom, it's all memes and yelling about smol beans and stuff. But she fixates on certain arguments and beats them to death and I totally see why people don't want to deal with that.

She also made me like the Avs more, so sometimes her fixations work in a good way.

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

NA

"she's really good at talking about hockey"

Is she though? I always got the impression that she knows way less than she likes to think she does

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

na

I'm curious about what people mean by that, anyway. Like, do people have a hard time finding RPF people that also talk actual hockey? I can't say it's a difficulty I've had, but maybe other folks do.

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

*shrug* I think she is. I've asked her questions about stuff I didn't know about and she's good at explaining. And she has a lot of interesting conversations about player usage and systems with other people on my timeline.

IME it's hard to find that much hockey talk in RPF fandom that's lighter on feels and stuff.

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

She was starting to disassociate herself from the Pens last season, and I kind of wish she just did, full stop so she wouldn't have gotten to enjoy their winning the cup lol. Part of me really wants them to win again just to watch what she'll do, IMO if you practically hate the team you shouldn't get to celebrate the good stuff.

She's become even more unbearable, with the whole MAF/Murray thing. She needs to stop acting like any nice tweet about MAF by the official Pens twitter is an attempt by the org to destabilise Murray lmao. I get ragging on the beat writers for all the fluff articles (someone on reddit was saying that campaigning for awards like the Calder come from the beat writers, and right now the beat writers see Murray as a usurper, especially since they've always liked MAF as a person, which if true then yeah that sucks), but why does she expect the OFFICIAL Pens twitter to talk shit about the current starter?

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

This comment is extra amusing on flatmeme.

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

I was the other anon who made the comment about Pens PR and I fully blame oflights for that, so I'm lol-ing. Since she pointed out how weird they are about him, I can't stop paying attention to it. They are really obsessed with him.

The real stickler for me wasn't even from her though. Ryan Wilson and a few others quote-tweeted the Pens when they tweeted about Fleury right after one of Murray's shutouts and shamed them into acknowledging Murray's shutout, it was pretty funny.

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

SA

That should say "sticking point", why would I want to say stickler, phone?

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

Anon from the comment the anon you replied to was replying to (lol help me).

Oh well, yeah that's ridic then, because Murray was playing lol. But he isn't now so I don't get her damage.

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

She's been arguing all season that Fleury = bad, Murray = good so it's not surprising to me. And as I said earlier, since she pointed it out I can't unsee the bias either except I don't think it's some grand anti-Murray conspiracy. I think they're just really obsessed with Fleury, to go along with the media and the majority of fans.

Speaking of Wilson, he had a really good article about this http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Ryan-Wilson/Goalie-insurance/177/84628

This part: "The people who have contact with him will drown everything out with Fleury's affable personality, his smile, and his pranking ways. None of which are a negative. I repeat, none of those things are a negative. However, the more access somebody has to Marc-Andre Fleury the less capable they are of providing objectively accurate hockey analysis." I think this is really true. And if you're someone who thinks Fleury = bad, that must drive you nuts.

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

I love Ryan Wilson and co.

That's all.

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

the beef with the pens twitter and pensinsidescoop i feel is a valid one. they're the official team representatives and they don't give murray nearly the credit when he performed so well in the season and they pile on the compliments for fleury.

they're the official twitters, they need to have some semblance of fairness and it's incredibly lacking wrt to murray imo

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

I get that when it comes to the regular season and he was playing, that's very shady of them. I just don't get her overreaction when it's the playoffs and Murray isn't playing so obviously they'll congratulate the guy who did and she'll harp on and on about it.

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

DA

The only thing I've seen in the playoffs was that "last 30 out of 31 saves" tweet, which was really funny. That was comical stat manipulation.

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

i think it's more annoyance on her part that they never treat murray the same as fleury wrt to praise, which i get that fleury has been around way longer but it is grating at the same time to see such vast difference in their treatment

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

Huh. As a Pens fan who loves both goalies, I've never noticed that Pens twitter treats either of them better or worse. I follow every game, and the twitter team seems to recognize good games/performances whoever's in net. That said, MAF and Murray are very different goalies with very different personalities. MAF is a fan favorite, and they've def. been hyping that since Murray has been injured.

But that feels like good PR to me rather than some deliberate slight. Fleury is loved by the fans. He's playing well. It's his last season on the team, and he didn't play last post-season. It's a feel-good story, and he's an easy player to be excited about because he's so obviously into it and having a ball.

Murray is a different player. He isn't as fun. He doesn't feed off the crowd in the same way. Doesn't interact with the beat reporters or the Pens media the same way. He doesn't have the same relationship with them. I don't know if that = bias, or if it just results in different coverage, because Pens twitter isn't just reporting what's going on in a game, but interacting with fans.

I dunno, I feel like it's kind of similar to the Kris Letang thing and him being "underrated." He doesn't get as much coverage or interviews. He's not as
personable. He is in fact a little prickly, and I think it makes a difference in how he comes across via the media.

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

DA

They literally had to be shamed into acknowledging Murray's shutout. Before that, the only thing they tweeted about was Murray saying what a nice guy Fleury is. If you can't see the bias in that, I don't know. I suspect you have a bias of your own you haven't fully realized.

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

So do you have a link to this shaming, or are we just taking your word for it?

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

I just can't wait for them to be on different teams so the Pens goalie conversation will finally be OVER.

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

SAME

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

I can't decide if I want him on the Stars for frecklebutt's rage or the Avs for oflight's rage, both choices seem as equally fun to me.

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

I just want him to go someplace he will be happy. :(

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

Stars have got enough much-loved but inconsistent goalies already

Re: Ask Meme

[(Anonymous)]

If Fleury was on the Avs, oflights would just like him again. She liked him as recently as last season.

It would probably mean Varlamov going back to the Pens, though, and I think that would be the funniest part.