dekedangle_rpfanon | #24 – Not Sure If Serious or Playing Dumba

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The fact that Pens fans are not having the same depth of feeling about players not on their team is... normal? It's not a commentary on the relative degrees of tragedy experienced by different people.

"I'm sadder about this player than this other player" =/= "This situation is objectively more sad than this other situation." It's a difference in investment. And if you can't deal with people being more invested in players on their own team than in players on other people's teams, I really don't know what to tell you expect maybe you should stay out of multi-team spaces.

Oh boy. When did I say I "can't deal"? I find it annoying, but there's plenty of things in this world that I find annoying and so far I haven't moved to a solitary cave in the middle of the desert.

I understand that Pens fans find it especially sad because he's on their team, but I can't lie and say I don't also get a sense that they DO think this is sadder than any other situation. They bring it up all the time as a reason why they should win the cup this year. It's a very, very common situation, and while I understand being a little torn up about it happening to a fan fave on your team, I find it hard to think of it as something which makes the Pens especially ~unique or tragic. And that's HEAVILY implied by pens fans, all the time.

I get the feeling that this is more the result of your perception of Pens fans than about Dupuis and how people actually talk about him. And while "retiring because old and injured" is extremely common, the way in which it happened to Dupuis is not "very, very common" by any means.

He's 37. Cry me a river.

Is it the same river being cried for Joe Thornton not having a cup despite being 'old'?

TIL shitty things happening to you don't matter if you're old.

I'm not even a pens fan, but I still feel bad for Dupuis. 37 isn't old by anyone's but athlete's standards.

actually blood clots are a some what common malady for athletes, though not always career ending. Stamkos and Vasileveskiy both had them this year (but seem to be ok so far), and in the past few years Kimmo Timmomen, Tomas Vokoun, and Tomas Fleischmann all had to retire because of blood clot related health issues.

I'm talking about the specific way his injuries (not just the blood clots) and retirement played out over the course of three different seasons. Stankos' and Vasilevsky's clots are pathologically totally different from career-ending clots like Dupuis' and Vokoun's.

It wouldn't have taken three season if he hadn't been so stupidly reckless with his own life in the first place ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Actually the recklessness had very little if anything to do with the protractedness of his various medical conditions, but ok.

It has everything to do with how much he should just have retired instead.

He made a reckless decision to play with the clot before reporting it. At that point it wasn't clear that he would never be able to play again, when other players have been somewhat successful in coming back. He waited it out, came back, and retired shortly after. It was obvious he was struggling in the end, but if he were less reckless about it, he would have retired, what, a month earlier? Up until that point, there wasn't a reason to think he couldn't at least give it a go.

Dupuis' career was going to end soon anyways. It's ridiculous to pretend that it wasn't. I understand that he struggled with trying to play despite the clots and it was a lot for him to go through, but every year there are guys who have to make the tough decision about longterm health vs. continuing to play.

Tomas Vokoun :(
Maybe I have a misleading view because I only got into hockey a few years ago when his career was nearing its end, but I got the impression that a lot of people forget how good he was (or don't remember him at all)

I think most people only know him from his last little bit, being a back up in Pittsburgh. He's incredibly beloved in Nashville. (I actually have a poster of him on my wall.)

Yeah, all the Preds fans I know love both him and Timmonen from their time spent there. I think the Preds even had him in the broadcast booth for one of their heritage nights or something earlier this season? I'm fuzzy on the details.

SA *Timonen (I always forget where the double m goes...)

It's a venting thread. People are allowed to vent without a disclaimer about how the thing annoying them is human nature and there's nothing wrong with it and they probably don't belong in multiteam spaces if they find themselves annoyed at it overwhelming their TL. If you can't handle that ... you probably know how the rest goes.

When someone comes to the venting thread and says "I'm annoyed by people doing X," does that not imply those people shouldn't do X? Or have I been reading this thread all this time?

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Not really? I'm frequently annoyed by shit and want it to go away or out of places where I can see it, while simultaneously recognizing that people can do whatever the fuck they want and not actually wanting to become grand poobah. I mean, to use a non-fandom example, I'm annoyed how many sandwiches include mayo, because I hate mayo. That doesn't mean I don't recognize lots of people love mayo and would be sad if it was gone. It just means that I wish it was easier for me, personally, to get a sandwich sans mayo.

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just speaking for myself, not necessarily. Sometimes I just want to commiserate about finding something annoying.

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