#26 — Vanek! with a Jurco

[dekedangle_rpf_mod]

This is the twenty-sixth post of Deke Dangle RPF Anon, a community for all your ice hockey anon meme needs.

THE RULES

1. Mods retain the right to delete, freeze, and/or screen threads and comments.
2. Meme rules do not require warnings.
3. Respect flock. Do not repost or share information from private tumblrs, locked twitter accounts, flocked LJ posts, etc.
4. No linking fans to their real life identities.
5. No looks bashing or body shaming. This applies to players and people associated with those players and their clubs, as well as fellow fans.
6. No embedded music.
7. No embedded images.
8. No spamming the meme, whether through repeated comments or other means. 
9. No discussing trolling, individual trolls, or their efforts.





Meme rules do not require spoiler cuts. However, this layout does allow for them. Any of the following tags will create a spoiler cut when closed: <div cut>, <span cut>, <font cut>, <font color="white">

If you have any questions or concerns, please direct them to The Mod Post. 

Threaded View
Flat View
Top-Level Comment View

Next post opens at 5,000 comments.

Comments

Re: Fandom Goggles

[(Anonymous)]

Nate: "I always say I want to be a firefighter if I couldn't play hockey, but I don't think that would work."

IDK why that's so funny, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to cackling at weird moments all day.

Re: Random Hockey Stuff

[(Anonymous)]

Team Russia holds a moment of silence to honor those lost in Lokomotiv Yaroslavl crash 5 years ago.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TomGulittiNHL/status/773422900334518272

Re: Fandom Goggles

[(Anonymous)]

For some reason I autocompleted the link with "the dick."

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

wow I've been reading it wrong this entire time.

Re: Fandom Goggles

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, can't believe they actually had them climb that ladder.

Re: Fandom Goggles

[(Anonymous)]

Same, I was wondering the whole time if there were any liability or contract issues with that...

Re: Fandom Goggles

[(Anonymous)]

I mean I'm sure they were perfectly safe, but still, you're having Sidney freaking Crosby climb a 100 ft ladder... in some random parking lot... what? It's not even like they were going to get some awesome extreme sports footage out of it, like if they were rock climbing or something.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Brian Burke saying he doesn't think the playing field is an appropriate place to bring politics into is just... astoundingly un-self-aware, to put it mildly.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Sure does make you feel good about YCP, doesn't it?

Re: Fandom Goggles

[(Anonymous)]

Can somebody try and watch this and tell me if its geoblocked (I'm in the US) or if my computer + TVA is just a match made in hell??

http://www.tvasports.ca/2016/09/06/complicite-entre-drouin-et-mackinnon

Re: Fandom Goggles

[(Anonymous)]

It's on Tumblr: http://emilyisobsessed.tumblr.com/post/150043448850/make-them-stop

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

That is hilarious but sad, and only further reinforces my belief that Burke is not someone who should represent YCP in any capacity.

Re: Fandom Goggles

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you!

Re: Exchanges, etc

[(Anonymous)]

http://archiveofourown.org/collections/WCOH_Prompt_Ficathon/profile#faq

I honestly don't understand how this works with prompting through AO3?

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

He's the founder. Without him, YCP doesn't exist. What he said was certainly clueless and lacking in awareness, but his Burke-i-ness is a lot of what allowed YCP to get off of the ground and get traction among actual NHLers and actual NHL staff. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. I don't think he's that heavily involved with the day-to-day running of the organization now, anyway. But he still does have an important role of being the guy who can call up players or front office guys and talk to them about their tweets and who they will listen to.

What hockey really needs is a guy like Brian Burke who can call up Brian Burke and John Tortorella and tell them when they are being idiots about race-related matters.

Re: Exchanges, etc

[(Anonymous)]

https://archiveofourown.org/admin_posts/147

I'm not sure I understand your question. Does that help?

Re: Exchanges, etc

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, thanks! I wasn't logged in, haha.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

You're confusing Brian Burke with Patrick Burke. Patrick Burke hasn't said anything about the Kaepernick situation, but has expressed support of Megan Rapinoe's gesture of solidarity.

Brian Burke is the bathwater in this analogy, and there is a big problem with his advocacy of YCP (and this may be an extension of a greater problem with YCP itself) if he can't see that YCP's cause is (or ought to be) just as "political" as Kaepernick's.

(It's also grating and hypocritical for him to consider something that affected one of his family member's to be a just cause and appropriate to bring into sports, but when it's black lives, it's political and doesn't belong and isn't appropriate. Especially given that proportionally more POC are likely to identify as LGBTQ+. It can't just be "our gay family members" or "the good white gays who we like.")

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Plenty of people have had lots of issues with the Burkes and YCP to begin with. You're entitled to your opinion, and it's not wrong to see the good in what the Burkes are doing, but it's not really your place to say people shouldn't wash their hands of Brian Burke because his participation in YCP outweighs his racism or whatever other reasons people have for objecting to him. What hockey really needs are guys like JT Brown in positions like Brian Burke's. But that's a pipe dream at this point.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I'm not confusing them. They are co-founders, and I think Patrick is still involved with the day-to-day and doesn't have the public role of making phone calls to players, which is the opposite.

Brian Burke is the bathwater in this analogy, and there is a big problem with his advocacy of YCP (and this may be an extension of a greater problem with YCP itself) if he can't see that YCP's cause is (or ought to be) just as "political" as Kaepernick's.

That's my point, exactly. The person I was responding to was trying to separate Burke from YCP, which is unrealistic. It may very well be a problem with YCP itself that it doesn't see itself as a political organization, but that's the org that was formed. To say that Burke shouldn't represent it, is to wish it was a different organization altogether, one that either doesn't exist (because no one has formed it) or doesn't have the access and acceptance YCP has (because it's helmed by people that have no cachet with people in the NHL).

I agree that it's grating and hypocritical, but that's what privilege looks like. Just like how male politicians who have daughters are far more likely to support women's rights than male politicians who have only sons.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I'm not saying that people shouldn't wash their hands of Brian Burke. I'm saying that you can't complain about him being the face of YCP. YCP is what it is, because he is the face of it.

What hockey really needs are guys like JT Brown in positions like Brian Burke's. But that's a pipe dream at this point.

Yes, that's what I meant by my last line. Although, I agree it's a long way off before a person of color becomes a GM or HC in the NHL. But I do still hope that some of the older players who have gone on to other roles are making those phone calls behind-the-scenes to their former teammates and billets and co-workers.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

I'm the one who made the comment about how Burke shouldn't represent YCP, and that was meant in large part as a criticism of the kind of organization YCP is. Of course it's unrealistic, but that doesn't mean I don't think it would be better if it was different from the ground up. But as you said, the kinds of people who would be able to make that different organization don't have access and respect in the NHL. It was meant to be a venting of frustration over YCP, not a suggestion for change.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

I'm so tired of fandom (twitter specifically today) and the obsession with "problematic." Please point me to somewhere in reality that can't be defined as problematic.

Yep Patrick Kane is probably a rapist. It's not a surprise he's employed by the NHL. There's nothing in his record that would prevent him from being employed by most businesses.

Torts is a little racist. So is one of the girls that shows up as a tangential friend of a friend of a friend on the weekends.

Half the freaking beat writers are mysoginsts. So are some of the old dudes that I work with.

I'm all for wanting things to be better. But I'm so tired of the doom and gloom of complaining. The world is full of problematic and I'm honestly not sure how hockey fandom should be different.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

What's next? Are you going to go after PC culture and SJWs? Attack safe spaces and trigger warnings? Should I provide an alt-right checklist for you go through? You're really halfway there.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

Alt-right? You have got to be fucking kidding me.