#26 — Vanek! with a Jurco

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Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

If one more hockey player/hockey adjacent person makes an ignorant ass comment about Colin Kaepernick, I'm going to scream my head off. I'm laughing bitterly at that argument from a while back where someone refused to believe the hockey community was more conservative than the average population without "sociological proof," like could they make it any more obvious??? Fandom's having fun tearing into Torts because they already hated him anyways, but others aren't better, and the women aren't any better than the men. Fuck hockey players tbh.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

My impression is that the women are a heck of a lot more LGBT-friendly than the men.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

+10000

Same here, at least from following twitter accounts

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

NA

I feel like the women have sort of a "log cabin Republican" thing going on. They're more LGBT-friendly, but they hold essentially the same attitudes on race and police brutality as the men (that is, largely really shitty ones).

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't seen that turn of phrase since 2004.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

I just checked the Pew research for the US by gender, and they are, but not by much. 58 percent of women support gay rights versus 52 percent of men. My quick google only brought up the data from 2001 onward. The gap was at its widest in in that span in 2011 when 41 percent of men supported gay rights versus 51 percent of women.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

I think people meant because of how many out female hockey players there are, which in turn is a consequence of how different male and female sports cultures are. You really can't use the overall gender split to figure out how one subculture within each gender will behave, though. That's...not how statistics work.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Like nonnie above me said, I was talking about women in hockey, not women overall. I don't know what you think a poll about women in the US has to do with a population that's largely Canadian, anyway.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

They aren't less racist, which is what I was talking about.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, like, I get why the original comment, the way it was phrased, would lead to someone to want to think about broader "social justice," but, like, unless Tortorella has been overtly anti-LGBT or something, it's pretty obvious what the remark about the women not being any better was referring to, specifically racism. And it's pretty fucking jarring to see someone venting their frustration about how hockey players and hockey culture, male and female alike, are deeply racist, and to see the first response is BUT THE WOMEN LGBT!!!

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

What did Tortorella do now?

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

He said that if one of his players didn't stand during the anthem, they weren't skating in that game.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

What a dumbass thing to say.

1) There's no chance any of his players were planning not to stand.
2) Hockey players don't rise for the national anthem. They are already standing out on the ice. At most, someone could choose to take a knee or bow their head and place their hands behind their back when the anthem starts.
3) If you force people to stand, then you render standing meaningless.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Existed, mostly.

But he said something to the effect of 'if anyone's planning on sitting out during the anthem, they can sit out for the entire length of the game too'.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Shout out to the Washington Spirit owner for taking the pressure off Torts by making a new and impressively *yikes* statement in the anthem debate.

http://screamer.deadspin.com/grandstanding-nwsl-owner-plays-national-anthem-early-to-1786357322

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

This reminded me that Wysh commented on puck soup (in response to a question about which hockey players were/were likely to be trump supporters) that they were for the most part socially liberal and fiscally conservative. No receipts, obvs, but it was a thing he said.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Keith Olbermann has said the same thing about professional players (he was talking about all sports, but he was including hockey). Something like, blah, blah, blah, you can't play on teams with people from all over the world without being able to get along with lots of different kinds of people and lifestyles and beliefs and orientations etc. But they all want a Flat Tax.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

I disagree with Torts but given his family-military connection I can't say I'm surprised by his answer.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

He had a whole quote about how he doesn't use battling terminology anymore. It's not surprising at all .

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

That is actually the one and only time I've ever liked him. Hockey isn't like being in battle, and I appreciate someone recognizing that sports =/= waging war.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, his son is currently deployed in the military, I believe it's somewhere undisclosed. I'm unsurprised and I also understand where his POV is coming from, though I also disagree.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not surprised at all either, but I can't say I have any sympathy for that POV. Plenty of military and people with military connections understand that this isn't about them, and that centering themselves in this is obfuscating the real issue at hand. Plenty of military people also suffer from the very injustices Kaerpernick's trying to point out. It's just a way of silencing black people, even if that's not the conscious intent.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Brian Burke saying he doesn't think the playing field is an appropriate place to bring politics into is just... astoundingly un-self-aware, to put it mildly.

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Sure does make you feel good about YCP, doesn't it?

Re: Fandom Venting

[(Anonymous)]

That is hilarious but sad, and only further reinforces my belief that Burke is not someone who should represent YCP in any capacity.