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From: (Anonymous)you can also read it without leaving kudos. if i were still comfortable reading about him i sure as fuck wouldn't be adding my name to that list of rape apologists. even if you personally don't mean it as a show of support for pkane, it sure looks like it.
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From: (Anonymous)This. I'm still getting kudos on old fic, and it's weird to me, even though I've reread a couple of older K/T stories from my bookmarks in the last month. I get that likely they're being good fandom citizens and paying the author, which I do appreciate, but it also feels...unseemly? I cringed when I got kudos the very day after the news broke, and that was the closest I ever got to deleting my fic.
"Paying the author" on new fic really just means encouraging them to keep writing it. It's lovely to say you can separate fanon from canon Kane as a reader, but someone actually has to write it, and encouraging them to pay more attention to him and perpetuate his online popularity doesn't sit well with me. Leaving kudos on new fic is not a neutral act.
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From: (Anonymous)Exactly. It is at the least unseemly.
Wasn't the entire point of that meta wankfest that people who see Kane as a character apart from his IRL actions are furthering rape apologia?
So, no, I don't think the above nonnie who wants to keep reading and kudosing fic with Kane as though he's an OC is getting it.
(Said nonnie is still free to read and kudos to their heart's content, of course, but that doesn't mean people won't put them on whatever personal lists they might maintain of Kane apologists.)
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From: (Anonymous)I don't think so. I downloaded my faves too, and though I haven't been able to reread them I knew someday maybe I would want the option.
I didn't say kudos were precisely equivalent to rape apologia. But they tell authors "yes, keep writing more" and as discussed over and over, there are other consequences to that.
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From: (Anonymous)That may be true for people who are very ship-based, but kudosing fic doesn't mean that you necessarily want more of that particular character.
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From: (Anonymous)I kudos every fic I read.
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From: (Anonymous)That doesn't detract the from the fact that it serves as encouragement for the writer- only you know the reason why you pressed the kudos button so intention doesn't come into play.
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From: (Anonymous)Huh. I've never thought of kudos as encouragement. There's so little effort in pressing the button that I don't even take it to mean anything. Only comments serve for encouragement in any way. Perhaps it's because of all my years posting fic to LJ that I don't measure anything by kudos? I definitely think that being used to the LJ culture of comments changes how someone views kudos.
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From: (Anonymous)what else would kudos mean?
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From: (Anonymous)I also spent years on LJ writing fic, and I view kudos as feedback, so I don't think it's strictly an LJ comment culture way of viewing things, although that probably does have some effect on it for some people.
I also write for tiny rarepairs and smaller fandoms in gneral, so it's not like a get a ton of hits, kudos, or comments. I think the size of the fandom and pairing plays into things as well. If you're writing things that are lucky to break 100 hits or reach the double digits just in kudos, you're probably more likely to view kudos as encouragment. (I could be wrong, though.)
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From: (Anonymous)You can't ignore that it's a form of feedback telling the author that there's an audience for their fic.
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From: (Anonymous)Yeah, I was just trying to figure out how to phrase what you just said. People have made up their minds about whether or not Kane fic (and Kane fic support) is acceptable, and if you disagree with them, you're just going to have to live with them not supporting your actions/decisions.
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From: (Anonymous)If I really, really like it I will comment.